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Nortel "Entrust"

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NODE 75b62531Nortel "Entrust"
Can anyone tell me anything about a product called "Entrust", by Nortel
(Northern Telecom). The notes talk about the software using DES ("which
employs a 56-bit key") so I guess it's single DES, not triple DES. It also
mentions a proprietary algorithm called CAST. 

  Is this worthy of further investigation, or is it suspect ? What is 
CAST, and would it be classed as snake oil ?

  Please cc to me in mail - I have a little trouble dealing with the 
volume here.

Sincerely,

-Jon

--
  Jonathon Fletcher,         "opinions are my own, not my employer's"
  jonathon@japan.sbi.com
NODE 2fa02e94Re: Nortel "Entrust"
>   Is this worthy of further investigation, or is it suspect ? What is 
> CAST, and would it be classed as snake oil ?
CAST is discussed in _Applied Cryptography_.
NODE aceb40a9Re: Nortel "Entrust"
Jonathon Fletcher writes:
>   Can anyone tell me anything about a product called "Entrust", by Nortel
> (Northern Telecom). The notes talk about the software using DES ("which
> employs a 56-bit key") so I guess it's single DES, not triple DES. It also
> mentions a proprietary algorithm called CAST. 
> 
>   Is this worthy of further investigation, or is it suspect ? What is 
> CAST, and would it be classed as snake oil ?

I asked one of the NorTel sales reps. about this at the RSA conference. As
I recall, CAST is an espionage-enabled version of DES -- i.e. 16 of the key
bits are sent in the clear, or have a fixed value, or something along those
lines. The guy I spoke to didn't know the technical details.

Of course, maybe we should consider 56-bit DES espionage-enabled at this 
point too ! 

>   Please cc to me in mail

(done)

-Lewis
NODE bd2374f9Re: Nortel "Entrust"
Jonathon Fletcher writes:
>   Can anyone tell me anything about a product called "Entrust", by Nortel
> (Northern Telecom). The notes talk about the software using DES ("which
> employs a 56-bit key") so I guess it's single DES, not triple DES. It also
> mentions a proprietary algorithm called CAST. 
> 
>   Is this worthy of further investigation, or is it suspect ? What is 
> CAST, and would it be classed as snake oil ?

"Entrust" was built by Smart People. Of course, any given component of
it is only as strong as the underlying algorithms; you yourself are
probably aware of the problems associated with DES vs 3DES and such. I
would suggest examining the documents.

I don't know anything about CAST.

Perry