NODE 89267a06re: FCC & Internet phones
"A. Padgett Peterson P.E. Information Security" <PADGETT@hobbes.orl.mmc.com>Sun, 10 Mar 1996 02:24:22 +0800
>"Long-Distance Dueling. Free Dialing Via Internet Faces a Challenge From
>Small Phone Firms."
You seem to forget that the Internet is just about the *only* electronic
communications media not controlled/licensed by the FCC in the US. The
FCC also prohibits use of cryptography by those with amateur licenses.
Warmly,
Padgett
NODE fbc9c91bre: FCC & Internet phones
Just Rich <rich@c2.org>Sun, 10 Mar 1996 04:57:45 +0800
There's also an article in today's San Jose Mercury News.
I'm just wondering how the hell they would enforce regulations on carrying
voice over the Internet. Are they going to analyze every packet? What
happens when someone makes a trivial modification to the code, or adds a
gateway, so that the voice call uses a different UDP (or more likely RTP)
port and header format?
They could try to make a frontal assault by regulating the Internet
itself, but they should know better.
-rich
NODE 76358ac5re: FCC & Internet phones
"Mark M." <markm@voicenet.com>Sun, 10 Mar 1996 07:01:27 +0800
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On Sat, 9 Mar 1996, Just Rich wrote:
> There's also an article in today's San Jose Mercury News.
>
> I'm just wondering how the hell they would enforce regulations on carrying
> voice over the Internet. Are they going to analyze every packet? What
> happens when someone makes a trivial modification to the code, or adds a
> gateway, so that the voice call uses a different UDP (or more likely RTP)
> port and header format?
I wonder what exactly the FCC means by the term "Internet Phone." Does this
just mean that software like IPhone will be regulated, or will this also apply
to RealAudio and sending uuencoded .WAV files through e-mail. Also, will
this regulation apply to video and audio software like CuSeeMe and Mbone
software?
- --Mark
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NODE ec6c9111Re: FCC & Internet phones
"Harry S. Hawk" <habs@warwick.com>Sun, 10 Mar 1996 23:11:31 +0800
> I wonder what exactly the FCC means by the term "Internet Phone."
> Does this just mean that software like IPhone will be regulated, or
> will this also apply
The thing is that at "best" the Iphone people (et al), are sell
Equipment!. NO ONE is SELLING phone service.. I mean Selling phone
service means some guy in NYC putting a sign on a store front offering
10 cents a minute calls "anyway where in the world."
When you or I use Iphone (etc), we are not selling anything.. Tarrifs
are for Selling.. Not "personal use." The only one selling anything is
IDT with there plans to have Iphone like calls start in the US go to
europe via the Internet and then switch them to regular POTS lines for
the call completion..
Any Legal options here?
Btw. the worst thing is all the phone companies are very very good
a lobbying... congress, the FCC, etc.
ALso once FCC regulations something commmerical speach becomes "restricted."
Eg., tobbaco ads..
/hawk
NODE 7da09143Re: FCC & Internet phones
Mutant Rob <wlkngowl@unix.asb.com>Mon, 11 Mar 1996 10:11:10 +0800
Harry S. Hawk wrote:
[..]
>
> Btw. the worst thing is all the phone companies are very very good
> a lobbying... congress, the FCC, etc.
>
> ALso once FCC regulations something commmerical speach becomes "restricted."
> Eg., tobbaco ads..
Hmmm...
So any word from the EFF? Perhaps it is time for ISPs to start their
own lobbying organization....
--Rob