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"ADL Special Report: The Militia Movement in America."

      A 1995 national survey by the ADL offers disturbing
      evidence that the militia movement has continued to
      grow. The ADL survey also found that many hard-core
      militiamen believe that the United States Government
      itself conducted the Oklahoma City bombing to create an
      excuse for further depriving citizens of their
      constitutional rights. A continuing flow of information
      from ADL Regional offices around the country indicates
      militias are operating in at least 40 states, with
      membership reaching some 15,000, and that these numbers
      could rise still higher. The following is a 40-state
      summary of known militia activity.

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NODE 8bc335a7Re: ADL_mil (militias and the USAF)
On Sun, 10 Mar 1996, John Young wrote:

>    "ADL Special Report: The Militia Movement in America."
> 
>       A 1995 national survey by the ADL offers disturbing
>       evidence that the militia movement has continued to
>       grow. The ADL survey also found that many hard-core
>       militiamen believe that the United States Government
>       itself conducted the Oklahoma City bombing to create an
>       excuse for further depriving citizens of their
>       constitutional rights. A continuing flow of information
[...]
>    [Thanks to AF]

That info used to be available at http://www.pafb.af.mil/deomi/DEOMI.HTM
(the Defense Equal Opportunity Management Institute), under the "Special
Interest Groups" heading, but access was restricted to MilNet on Friday
when I pointed out, somewhat sarcastically, that they were violating the
ADL's copyrights. Geez, they *REALLY* don't want people accessing that
server; not only is it firewalled now, but they removed www.pafb.af.mil
from the public DNS (its IP address is 131.25.131.53). I guess the Air
Force can't take a joke (gee, I wonder why).

Anyway, if you're interested in a bunch of very interesting reports on
right-wing terrorist groups in the US, most of them dated August 1993, I
just might be able to put you in touch with someone who might have those
files in his or her N*tscape cache directory. My friend Cecelia points 
out that the ADL made a few silly mistakes, though, like getting Neo-Nazi
leader William Pierce's birthdate wrong (Pierce is the wacko who wrote 
The Turner Diaries, which inspired a tring of murders/bank robberies by 
The Order and, more recently, Timothy McVeigh).

The general thrust of DEOMI seems to be that people in non-combat posts in
the military have every right to be involved with these jokers in their
off hours. There are several .mil addresses on the openly Neo-Nazi
Stormfront list -- and they're not all plants. In general, they'll only
investigate you if your paranoid fantasies about the Zionist Occupational
Government prompt you to get up in a tower and start shooting people. 
Which has, of course, happened, so I have no problem whatsoever with the 
USAF (or anyone else) talking to the ADL, as long as rights are respected.

-rich
NODE 10dc5edeRe: ADL_mil (militias and the USAF)
Well, yes.

However...

The strongman of ADL, Abe Foxman  has a salary in six figures. People in the 
organization are doing good business on the "militia" scare.
NODE 836b685eRe: ADL_mil (militias and the USAF)
On Sun, 10 Mar 1996 22:54:58 -0500 (EST) alanh@larry.infi.net (Alan Horowitz) 
wrote:

>Well, yes.
>
>However...
>
>The strongman of ADL, Abe Foxman  has a salary in six figures. People in
>the organization are doing good business on the "militia" scare.

This is true. Someone posted a general indictment of the pressure-group 
mentality a few days ago. I agree with most of what the ADL does, but I don't 
like it when *anyone* "exaggerates" like that. I've criticized the ADL, and
I've criticized the Nazis and black-helicopter wackos who also lie and 
"exaggerate" to get financial and moral support.

As Declan found out, I tend to be harshest on friends, because I consider
them most worth saving. I've never aspired to be anything but an independent 
loudmouth, and a FUCKING STATIST, of course.

-rich
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