Re: code vs cypher

At 10:01 PM 4/28/96 -0700, Rich Graves wrote:
> I do not recall defending any statist policies. I did not defend the
> [SMC call to silence Nazis], and indeed to defend the 
> [SMC ] would not have been
> egregious statism, or indeed any kind of statism at all, 

I do not recall anyone accusing you of statism on the SMC call to cut
Nazi net access -- probably because I deleted all that tedious crap, 
not because nobody accused you.

I and others accused you of statism on various other matters, such as
your claim that those who fail to pay taxes steal from society, and I just
accused you of always changing the subject to Nazism whenever somebody
accuses you of statism.

And I also accused you of talking about Nazism much too much.

And what happened:  You immediately changed the subject to Nazism.

Cut the nazism, please.  Statism is sometimes on topic.  Nazism will
not be on topic until the next serious threat to Nazi's net access.
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jamesd@echeque.com wrote:
> 
> At 10:01 PM 4/28/96 -0700, Rich Graves wrote:
> > I do not recall defending any statist policies. I did not defend the
> > [SMC call to silence Nazis], and indeed to defend the
> > [SMC ] would not have been
> > egregious statism, or indeed any kind of statism at all,
> 
> I do not recall anyone accusing you of statism on the SMC call to cut
> Nazi net access -- probably because I deleted all that tedious crap,
> not because nobody accused you.

[blah blah blah deleted]

   I just wanted to point out that, for those who had any remaining
doubt, the evolution of this thread demonstrates quite well the need for
a separate coderpunks list.

Raph

On Mon, 29 Apr 1996, Raph Levien wrote:

> jamesd@echeque.com (Robespierre) wrote:
> >
> > At 10:01 PM 4/28/96 -0700, Rich Graves wrote:
> > > I do not recall defending any statist policies. I did not defend the
> > > [SMC call to silence Nazis], and indeed to defend the
> > > [SMC ] would not have been
> > > egregious statism, or indeed any kind of statism at all,
> >
> > I do not recall anyone accusing you of statism on the SMC call to cut
> > Nazi net access -- probably because I deleted all that tedious crap,
> > not because nobody accused you.
> 
> [blah blah blah deleted]
> 
>    I just wanted to point out that, for those who had any remaining
> doubt, the evolution of this thread demonstrates quite well the need for
> a separate coderpunks list.

I quite agree, as I said in the part of the message that James snipped. 
I'm learning a lot lurking on coderpunks. I'm also learning a lot on
alt.revisionism and talk.politics.libertarian. I'm glad we have all of
those. 

-rich