NODE 3c19bad2Re: [IRS] Elvis in Escrow
frantz@netcom.com (Bill Frantz)Wed, 17 Apr 1996 14:18:50 +0800
At 4:40 AM 4/16/96 -0700, Dave Del Torto wrote:
>[from SF Examiner somewhere around 12-14 April 96]
>
>..............................................................................
>
>"IRS Worker Took Peek at Celebrities' Records"
>[Associated Press]
> Memphis - A former IRS employee who said boredom had led him to peek at
>the tax records of President Clinton, Elvis Presley and other famous people
>has been acquitted of federal charges.
>
>
>
>Hmmm. _We_ do it, it's "malicious cracking/hacking" and they toss us in the
>clink... _they_ do it, and it's "practice" (and they get acquitted). And
>_these_ are the people who want to escrow _my_ keys? As IF!
I wonder, how much is NSA's secret key worth? You know, the one they use
to grab the extra key bits that Lotus Notes sends them.
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NODE ca9189c8NSA/Lotus public key (was Re: [IRS] Elvis in Escrow)
Andrew Loewenstern <andrew_loewenstern@il.us.swissbank.com>Fri, 19 Apr 1996 06:52:05 +0800
> I wonder, how much is NSA's secret key worth? You know, the
> one they use to grab the extra key bits that Lotus Notes sends
> them.
Does anyone know how many bits it is? If it is 512 or less it may be a good
candidate for a public key factoring.
andrew
NODE 14dd12c1Re: NSA/Lotus public key (was Re: [IRS] Elvis in Escrow)
Adam Shostack <adam@lighthouse.homeport.org>Fri, 19 Apr 1996 11:13:19 +0800
Andrew Loewenstern wrote:
| > I wonder, how much is NSA's secret key worth? You know, the
| > one they use to grab the extra key bits that Lotus Notes sends
| > them.
|
| Does anyone know how many bits it is? If it is 512 or less it may
| be a good candidate for a public key factoring.
Legally, I don't know that they can export software that
handles keys longer than 512 bits. Wait! I forgot! They are the brute
squad.
More seriously, if they did export an API (even a private one)
that can handle keys longer than 512 bits, perhaps we could find that
out and publish information on using the NSA-strength crypto from
Notes applications.
Adam
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"It is seldom that liberty of any kind is lost all at once."
-Hume
NODE 06dfdad0Re: [IRS] Elvis in Escrow
Brian Davis <bdavis@thepoint.net>Thu, 18 Apr 1996 03:41:28 +0800
On Tue, 16 Apr 1996, Bill Frantz wrote:
> At 4:40 AM 4/16/96 -0700, Dave Del Torto wrote:
> >[from SF Examiner somewhere around 12-14 April 96]
> >
> >..............................................................................
> >
> >"IRS Worker Took Peek at Celebrities' Records"
> >[Associated Press]
> > Memphis - A former IRS employee who said boredom had led him to peek at
> >the tax records of President Clinton, Elvis Presley and other famous people
> >has been acquitted of federal charges.
> >^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
"acquitted" here may mean that cypherpunks were on the trial jury.
If the "fix" was in, as Dave seems to imply, there never would've been a
trial.
EBD
> >
> >Hmmm. _We_ do it, it's "malicious cracking/hacking" and they toss us in the
> >clink... _they_ do it, and it's "practice" (and they get acquitted). And
> >_these_ are the people who want to escrow _my_ keys? As IF!
>
> I wonder, how much is NSA's secret key worth? You know, the one they use
> to grab the extra key bits that Lotus Notes sends them.
>
>
> Bill Frantz | The CDA means | Periwinkle -- Computer Consulting
> frantz@netcom.com | dead teenagers | Los Gatos, CA 95032, USA
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