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RE: Mindshare and Java

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NODE fb14fc98RE: Mindshare and Java
> I agree that the major innovation, and cypherpunk opportunity, of Java is
> in its cross-platform nature, not its vaunted ability to run untrusted
> code safely. I'm sorry, I'm just not interested in running untrusted code. 
> Give me digitally signed code that I can trust, or for which the author 
> can at least be held accountable, and I'll be happy. 

Absolutely!

> As cool as many of the people on the Java team are, though, I am dubious
> that Java is going to live up to the hype. It is still not clear to me
> that Microsoft is going to support it seriously in their browser, which by
> mid-1997 will be so tightly integrated with the lowest-common-denominator
> operating system that there will be no room for Netscape.

There was an official announcement at their Professional Developers Conference
a few weeks back.  In short, full support in the browsers (and apparently MS 
is now the keeper of the reference implementation on Win32) and also
a full blown Java development environment code-named 'Jakarta'.

-Blake
NODE 765c4a12RE: Mindshare and Java
On Thu, 25 Apr 1996, Blake Coverett wrote:

> There was an official announcement at their Professional Developers
> Conference a few weeks back.  In short, full support in the browsers
> (and apparently MS is now the keeper of the reference implementation on
> Win32) and also a full blown Java development environment code-named
> 'Jakarta'.

Yes, I had the misfortune to post that skeptical bit at precisely the same
moment that the public press releases were proving me wrong :-(

My source at the PDC indicated that Microsoft was still pushing Visual
Basic, but I'll accept that there's been a change... 

Still, integrating Java and Internet browsing into the OS does not bode
well for Netscape. 

-rich