NODE 7a3535f7Re: WWW User authentication
"David E. Smith" <dsmith@midwest.net>Wed, 10 Apr 1996 22:23:17 +0800
> I just finished writing a cgi script to allow users to change their login
> passwords via a webpage. I currently have the webpage being authenticated
> with the basic option (uuencoded plaintext). MD5 would be nicer, but how
> many browsers actually support it?
A straight MD5 probably isn't supported by any of them, but then again
MD5 is not necessarily going to help too much. The sort of people
that need a web page to change their password aren't likely to
use overly complex passwords (mixed-case, scrambled-in numbers,
et al.) So if a snoop can get the MD5, her chances of getting a password
aren't all that bad.
> When the user changes their password, the form sends their name, old
> password, and new password with it, in the clear. This is no worse than
> changing your password across a telnet connection, but I'd like it to be
> more secure, but useable by a large number of browsers.
Your best bet is to try to implement it via SSL, but as I understand
it that limits you on your server options quite a bit. Netscape and
Apache have it, as I understand; I think that's about it actually.
But that's far from my areas of expertise.
dave
NODE b0d634fdRe: WWW User authentication
blane@aa.net (Brian C. Lane)Fri, 12 Apr 1996 06:36:17 +0800
On Tue, 9 Apr 1996 16:12:17 -0600, you wrote:
>> I just finished writing a cgi script to allow users to change their login
>> passwords via a webpage. I currently have the webpage being authenticated
>> with the basic option (uuencoded plaintext). MD5 would be nicer, but how
>> many browsers actually support it?
>
>A straight MD5 probably isn't supported by any of them, but then again
>MD5 is not necessarily going to help too much. The sort of people
>that need a web page to change their password aren't likely to
>use overly complex passwords (mixed-case, scrambled-in numbers,
>et al.) So if a snoop can get the MD5, her chances of getting a password
>aren't all that bad.
Hey! I'm not a total dunce! <G> The cgi I wrote (ok, ok, hacked) includes
cracklib support. It won't let people enter simple passwords.
>Your best bet is to try to implement it via SSL, but as I understand
>it that limits you on your server options quite a bit. Netscape and
>Apache have it, as I understand; I think that's about it actually.
>But that's far from my areas of expertise.
Yep, that's about it. And they want you to pay for using it in a
commercial venture (which my system will be eventually), and I can't
justify (or afford) the expense.
Brian
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