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Re: Is Chaum's System Traceable or Untraceable?

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NODE 362cad63Re: Is Chaum's System Traceable or Untraceable?
From:	IN%"iang@cs.berkeley.edu" 22-MAY-1996 14:51:29.42

>In the "normal" protocol, the payee has to go online.  In the "anon" protocol,
>the payer has to go online.  Since you don't want to go online when you
>walk into a shop, you can pay the shop with the "normal" protocol, and
>the shop gives you change with the "anon" protocol.

>That way, you never need to go online, and your identity is never compromised.

	However, the shop's still is, although the bank might not be able to
determine as much about how much income is coming in. OTOH, we're talking about
a physical shop situation; I'm not sure how critical it is to have shop
anonymnity with payor cooperation for this, since the payor can break it
anyway.
	-Allen
NODE f0bed57fRe: Is Chaum's System Traceable or Untraceable?
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In article <01I50K5LNPQG8Y4X9G@mbcl.rutgers.edu>,
E. ALLEN SMITH <EALLENSMITH@ocelot.Rutgers.EDU> wrote:
>From:  IN%"iang@cs.berkeley.edu" 22-MAY-1996 14:51:29.42
>
>>In the "normal" protocol, the payee has to go online.  In the "anon" protocol,
>>the payer has to go online.  Since you don't want to go online when you
>>walk into a shop, you can pay the shop with the "normal" protocol, and
>>the shop gives you change with the "anon" protocol.
>
>>That way, you never need to go online, and your identity is never compromised.
>
>       However, the shop's still is, although the bank might not be able to
>determine as much about how much income is coming in. OTOH, we're talking about
>a physical shop situation; I'm not sure how critical it is to have shop
>anonymnity with payor cooperation for this, since the payor can break it
>anyway.

Ah.  I see I was misunderstood.  The goal was not to make the shop anonymous,
but rather to be able to provide change to an anonymous payer.

   - Ian

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