NODE 45c594b1Re: Interactive Week exclusive - White House to launch "Clipper III"
tcmay@got.net (Timothy C. May)Sun, 19 May 1996 18:18:27 +0800
Bottom Line:
In a way, I am hoping that "Clipper III" is proposed, as it will energize
us once again. Historically, the "Cypherpunks antibodies" have had their
most vigorous growth when faced with a government antigen.
At 8:09 PM GMT 5/18/96, Will Rodger wrote:
>The White House is about to answer recent attempts to liberalize encryption
>exports with a proposal of its own.
>
>Documents obtained by Interactive Week show the Ciinton Administration has
>been lobbying key Republican committee members to compromise on encryption
>through a policy that looks very much like previous commerical key escrow
>efforts.
...
>The URL for the complete article is:
>http://www.zdnet.com/intweek/daily/960518y.html
>
>Will Rodger
>Washington Bureau Chief
>Interactive Week
Many thanks to Will for passing this on the Cypherpunks list. Our
opposition to Clipper I and Clipper II was strong and, I expect, will
continue with CIII.
A question for Will Rodger: Is this "White Paper" ("The newest proposal is
contained in a 24-page White Paper, a draft of which hit Capitol Hill
earlier this week") related in any way to the one being prepared by Herb
Lin and a bunch of other folks? It was due out about this time, and the
topic seems similar. A bunch of us gave input to Herb and his panel at the
CFP in '95...if this is the same White Paper, looks like we might just as
well have saved our breath.
I read the stuff at the URL, and at first blush it looks to say nothing
about _domestic_ (within the U.S. and Canada) encryption. I'll be anxious
to see what the White Paper says about domestic encryption.
(To be clear, there are currently _no_ laws whatsoever about the types of
crypto a citizen (or resident alien, or, for all intents and purposes,
anyone) may use, nor about the key length, nor about any form of GAK, etc.
Even Clipper I did not actually mandate allowable forms of crypto, though
many of us thought that this was the desired end-state, down the road. So,
I am tentatively assuming that Clipper III, if passed, will not diretly
impinge on domestic encryption policy, about which the government currently
says nothing.)
However, as with other proposed crypto laws and "trial balloons," there are
several questions which arise:
1. Will there be pressures put on the browser companies (Netscape,
Microsoft, etc.) and the e-mail companies (Qualcomm, Microsoft, Claris,
Lotus, etc.) to produce a "world version" that meets export standards with
a single shrink-wrapped package?
(Recall that last fall some of the various companies stated as their goal
having a single package that could be shipped worldwide. Some of them
claimed having two versions, a domestic U.S. version and an international
version, was too onerous. I am skeptical of this, given that they have
multiple platforms to support, multiple operating systems, etc. But they
claim it is.)
2. Interoperability. How will U.S. users exchange messages with
international users? Will a U.S. user have to register with the Authorities
to get the proper credentials, protocols, etc.? Will the U.S.-sold versions
of Netscape or Explorer, for example, contain the international GAKed
versions for use with international users?
3. With products like PGP, there are already international users (lots of
them). Thus, no "export laws" are involved. So, will I be able to
communicate with them using my existing PGP methods?
(If not, then my right to use an encryption product is in fact being
limited, contrary to the putative wording of what Clipper III is supposed
to be. To make this clear, I'm _already_ communicating with PGP, so no
"export version" is needed.)
And if U.S. users can continue to interoperate with international users as
they are now doing, this puts the lie to claims about how key escrow will
be useful for law enforcement.
4. And of course there is always the issue of _superencryption_. How a
GAKked program can detect that superencryption is being used has never been
adequately explained (to my satisfaction at least). Entropy measures won't
do it, and forbidding any encryption of messages already containing "BEGIN
PGP" will clearly just be a klugey bandaid.
5. What about U.S.-based corporations with offshore offices? Is a company
supposed to replace its entire intranet corporate network with a GAKked
system if even a single user is outside the U.S.-Canada?
(I fear that this is indeed the proposal. The effect will then be to make
all corporations GAKked.)
6. What about U.S. persons travelling abroad?
7. What about packets zinging around the world? Lots of complications if
GAK is insisted upon. And lots of new avenues for "packet laundering."
8. The issue of why other countries would insist that their citizens GAK
their keys when U.S. citizens don't have to!!
("Yes, Herr Glomlutz, we are insisting that all Germans using Netscape 4.0
must deposit their keys mit der Key Authority. No, we are not requiring our
own citizens to do this." I don't think this will fly too well.)
I can't see how other countries will go along with this.
And what about the usual problem of "rogue nations" like Iraq, Iran, North
Korea, Israel, and Liberia?
9. Many other issues. (They never answered the similar questions raised the
last time, so I doubt they will this time.)
Clipper III, if it turns out to be another worthless proposal which is
laughed out of Washington, will be no real threat. If Clipper III actually
outlaws or places limits on domestic use of crypto (as I think it must,
else it can be too easily circumvented completely), then it will be a
rallying cry which will likely see our membership increase still further,
the anti-Washington rhetoric escalate, and likely some new developments in
the war.
In a way, I am hoping that "Clipper III" is proposed, as it will energize
us once again. Historically, the "Cypherpunks antibodies" have had their
most vigorous growth when faced with a government antigen.
--Tim May
Boycott "Big Brother Inside" software!
We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed.
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NODE 5c251ec0Re: Interactive Week exclusive - White House to launch "ClipperIII"
Paul Robichaux <paul@ljl.COM>Tue, 21 May 1996 03:46:03 +0800
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>1. Will there be pressures put on the browser companies (Netscape,
>Microsoft, etc.) and the e-mail companies (Qualcomm, Microsoft, Claris,
>Lotus, etc.) to produce a "world version" that meets export standards with
>a single shrink-wrapped package?
Qualcomm has elected not to directly support PGP in the past, and it would
appear that NSA & State have broadly construed the ITAR sections on crypto
capability to mean that apps which can plug in crypto modules are
themselves not exportable (cf. Kerberos bones and the whole rationale
behind the MS CryptoAPI.)
However, Eudora 3.0 includes a plugin architecture for translators. These
translators can be used in a variety of ways, including for message
compression, foreign-language translation, and signatures. In fact, one of
the sample "translators" provided provides a "sign with PGP" icon in the
message composition window. Click it, put in your passphrase, and off you
go-- much easier than any of the existing solutions.
The plugin technology is such that it would be easy to write signature &
encryption plugins to use your choice of technology: Fortezza, Entrust,
PGP, IPG, or whatever. In fact, you might see Fortezza and Entrust plugins
later this summer :)
Several 'punks have speculated in the past about whether a general-purpose
plugin architecture that could be used for crypto would subject the product
to ITAR. Since I very seriously doubt Qualcomm would design & ship this
capability without finding out whether such an architecture would render
their product unexportable, my assumption is that (at least for now) there
is no world version requirement-- but vendors still have to face the
hassles of keeping, selling, and maintaining two separate versions. Ask
Netscape how much fun _that_ is.
-Paul
--
Paul Robichaux LJL Enterprises, Inc.
paul@ljl.com Be a cryptography user. Ask me how.
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