WELCOME TO THE NEW ROMAN EMPIRE

> On Sat, 18 May 1996, Duncan Frissell wrote:
> 
> > It was understandable to be poor when all the world was poor.  It is 
> > understandable to be poor in those nations today that make the 
> > accumulation of wealth a crime for most people.  It is not understandable 
> > to be poor (for long) in the US where one can reliably get out of poverty 
> > simply by doing three simple things:
> > 
> > 1) get a high school diploma

EVERYONE GETS A HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMA --> HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMAS BECOME WORTHLESS
EVERYONE GETS A PHD --> PHDS BECOME WORTHLESS

> > 2) get married

EVERYONE GETS MARRIED --> MARRIAGE BECOMES SPIRITUALLY BANKRUPT

> > 3) get any job

EVERYONE GETS A JOB --> EVERYONE TAKES THE PAYCUT

> > Only about 2 tenths of 1% of those who satisfy those three requirements
> > incomes below the official poverty line.

HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THE TENS OF MILLIONS IN APPALACHIA WHO GRADUATED MARRIED AND WORK IN POVERTY

> > Like most libertarians, I dislike the government.  I don't care what a 
> > person's income is.  When I was self-supporting on an income of $200 a 
> > month in 1979, I was below the poverty level for a single person myself.  
> > I am not enamored of the rich or poor members of the dependendant classes 
> > of course.

IT DOESNT MATTER WHAT THE GOVERNMENT IS DOING WRONG ITS BRAIN IS BUSINESS

> > I try and keep in mind that 80-90% of the "take" in government 
> > programs for the "poor" goes to unpoor government employees.

IT DOESNT MATTER WHAT THE GOVERNMENT IS DOING WRONG ITS BRAIN IS BUSINESS

> > DCF
> > 
> I've done all these things - and rather more in the way of education.  But
> while I don't fall on or near the poverty line, I'm still poor as a church
> mouse.  What am I doing wrong?

YOUR WHITE LIKE THE 100000000S SUFFERING IN POVERTY IN THE NEW ROMAN EMPIRE

> Sean Gabb.

Dave Harman writes:
> EVERYONE GETS A HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMA --> HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMAS BECOME WORTHLESS
> EVERYONE GETS A PHD --> PHDS BECOME WORTHLESS

Will someone please buy this man a shift key and some Thorazine?

.pm

> > EVERYONE GETS A HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMA --> HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMAS BECOME WORTHLESS
> > EVERYONE GETS A PHD --> PHDS BECOME WORTHLESS
> 
> Will someone please buy this man a shift key and some Thorazine?



    Yeah, next thing ya know, somebody will be claiming that Physics PHds 
can't get work now, and that MD's being out of work is right around the 
corner. (Newly minted board-eligible Pathologists have it worst, right now).

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(I really don't think a [NOISE] tag is necessary; do you?)

On Sun, 19 May 1996, Alan Horowitz wrote:

[ALL CAPS is by Skippy <qut@netcom.com>]
> > > EVERYONE GETS A HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMA --> HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMAS BECOME
> > > WORTHLESS EVERYONE GETS A PHD --> PHDS BECOME WORTHLESS
> > 
> > Will someone please buy this man a shift key and some Thorazine?
> 
>     Yeah, next thing ya know, somebody will be claiming that Physics PHds 
> can't get work now, and that MD's being out of work is right around the 
> corner. (Newly minted board-eligible Pathologists have it worst, right now).

Funny, I just watched an out-of-work physics PhD talk about a related
subject on 60 Minutes. Confirmed what I already thought about him, Mike,
and Morris (they're all idiots).

Skippy is just playing around with markov again. He trolls in waves:
humor -> trust -> confrontation -> outbust -> quiet -> lather, rinse,
repeat.

If you have any serious questions about Skippy and friends, please encrypt
your message with the key that follows. I'll probably have something
interesting (and on-topic) to share for the putative June 8th SF area
cypherpunks meeting (we'll have a real room).

- -rich

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! [ALL CAPS is by Rich Graves <qut@netcom.com>]
! > > > EVERYONE GETS A HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMA --> HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMAS BECOME
! > > > WORTHLESS EVERYONE GETS A PHD --> PHDS BECOME WORTHLESS
! 
! Skippy is just playing around with markov again. He trolls in waves:
! humor -> trust -> confrontation -> outbust -> quiet -> lather, rinse,
! repeat.

Skippy <llurch@stanford.edu> does not even know what Markov3 does.

! If you have any serious questions about Skippy and friends, please encrypt
! your message with the key that follows. I'll probably have something
! interesting (and on-topic) to share for the putative June 8th SF area
! cypherpunks meeting (we'll have a real room).

Skippy doesn't have any friends, so there's no one to answer the questions.

Qut may attend the meeting to verify the racial compositions of the group.
Results will be reported here.
Qut

Dave Harman writes:
> Qut may attend the [cypherpunks] meeting to verify the racial
> compositions of the group.

Why? You have something against black people?

.pm

On Mon, 20 May 1996, Perry E. Metzger wrote:

> 
> Dave Harman writes:
> > Qut may attend the [cypherpunks] meeting to verify the racial
> > compositions of the group.
> 
> Why? You have something against black people?

I think it was Asians which upset him.

> 
> .pm
> 

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Since we've already descended into the gutter, I might as well chime in
with the standard:

Dave Harman is, as far as I can tell, a troller whose only interest is in
causing fights. Some people think he's a racist, but I think he's just an
asshole with no convictions of any kind.

 http://www.almanac.bc.ca/cgi-bin/ftp.pl?people/h/harman.david

-rich

On Mon, 20 May 1996, Perry E. Metzger wrote:

> Dave Harman writes:
> > Qut may attend the [cypherpunks] meeting to verify the racial
> > compositions of the group.
> 
> Why? You have something against black people?
> 
> .pm

On Mon, 20 May 1996, Dave Harman wrote:

> Qut may attend the meeting to verify the racial compositions of the group.
> Results will be reported here.

Please do. I'll buy you a beer.