Re: CryptoAnarchy: What's wrong with this picture?

From:	IN%"unicorn@schloss.li"  "Black Unicorn" 29-APR-1996 02:21:27.65
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Subj:	RE: CryptoAnarchy: What's wrong with this picture?

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Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 00:15:56 -0400 (EDT)
From: Black Unicorn <unicorn@schloss.li>
Subject: RE: CryptoAnarchy: What's wrong with this picture?
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On Sun, 28 Apr 1996, jim bell wrote:

[...]

>While strong cryptography is powerful, and secure communications
>liberating, unplugging the phones would about cripple that 'weapon' for a
>while.  Any group rebelling based only on high technology communication is
>an extremely vulnerable group, both to widespread denial of service, and
>more specific 'surgical' attacks.  (Motorola stock anyone?)

	Wouldn't that partially depend on:
		A. the level of backups - packet radio as a backup for phones,
for instance... a reason I've been forwarding the stuff on radio to here.
		B. the necessity to the government of keeping what else may
depend on those phones - the economy - going.
	-Allen

On Mon, 6 May 1996, E. ALLEN SMITH wrote:

> On Sun, 28 Apr 1996, jim bell wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
> >While strong cryptography is powerful, and secure communications
> >liberating, unplugging the phones would about cripple that 'weapon' for a
> >while.  Any group rebelling based only on high technology communication is
> >an extremely vulnerable group, both to widespread denial of service, and
> >more specific 'surgical' attacks.  (Motorola stock anyone?)

Watch your attributation.  This is my quote.

> 
> 	Wouldn't that partially depend on:
> 		A. the level of backups - packet radio as a backup for phones,
> for instance... a reason I've been forwarding the stuff on radio to here.
> 		B. the necessity to the government of keeping what else may
> depend on those phones - the economy - going.
> 	-Allen
> 

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> 
> On Sun, 28 Apr 1996, jim bell wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
> >While strong cryptography is powerful, and secure communications
> >liberating, unplugging the phones would about cripple that 'weapon' for a
> >while.  Any group rebelling based only on high technology communication is
> >an extremely vulnerable group, both to widespread denial of service, and
> >more specific 'surgical' attacks.  (Motorola stock anyone?)

Watch your attributation, this is my quote.

> 
> 	Wouldn't that partially depend on:
> 		A. the level of backups - packet radio as a backup for phones,
> for instance... a reason I've been forwarding the stuff on radio to here.
> 		B. the necessity to the government of keeping what else may
> depend on those phones - the economy - going.
> 	-Allen
> 

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