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crypto and bagpipes [NOISE]

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NODE 452f242fcrypto and bagpipes [NOISE]
>>>A Missive From: David Kovar (kovar@nda.com)
>>>
>>>What is the connection between crypto and bagpipes? Well
>>>crypto is regarded as an armament by the US ITAR regulations.
>>>Later this month a British court is to rule as to whether
>>>bagpipes are still classified as "instruments of war"!
>>>The story is in today's Times newspaper (The British one)
>>>It seems that a piper is being taken to court for practising
>>>on Hampstead Heath, which has a bye-law forbidding music.
>>>Mr Brooks, the piper, has denied the charge, citing a case in 1746,
>>>where bagpipes were declared to be instruments of war, not musical
>>>instruments, and a subsequent Act of Parliament which specifically
>>>stated that they were weapons. He claims he wasn't playing a musical
>>>instrument, but practising with a weapon!
>>>
>>>The imagination boggles if his claim is successful! Will it
>>>be possible to sue pipers for assault with a deadly weapon?
>>>Will airports be equipped with bagpipe detectors?
>>>
>>>David Wadsworth                |  Wohin der Weg? Kein Weg!
>>>dwadsw@etna.demon.co.uk        |  Ins Unbetretene. (Faust)



Vinnie Moscaritolo
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NODE 01ec1181Re: crypto and bagpipes [NOISE]
vinnie moscaritolo writes:
> >>>A Missive From: David Kovar (kovar@nda.com)
[...]
> >>>Mr Brooks, the piper, has denied the charge, citing a case in 1746,
> >>>where bagpipes were declared to be instruments of war, not musical
> >>>instruments, and a subsequent Act of Parliament which specifically
> >>>stated that they were weapons. He claims he wasn't playing a musical
> >>>instrument, but practising with a weapon!
> >>>
> >>>The imagination boggles if his claim is successful!

No one who has heard sustained bagpipe playing can deny the fact that
bagpipes are indeed an instrument of war, with no legitimate place in
peaceful everyday society.

Perry
NODE d8720b7eRe: crypto and bagpipes [NOISE]
Excerpts from internet.cypherpunks: 27-Jun-96 Re: crypto and bagpipes
[NO.. by "Perry E. Metzger"@pierm 
> No one who has heard sustained bagpipe playing can deny the fact that
> bagpipes are indeed an instrument of war, with no legitimate place in
> peaceful everyday society.

Hmm... Carnegie Mellon University is the only school in the country with
a bagpipe major, you know. You haven't lived until you've heard a
screeching 'pipe at 3 am in front of Hunt Library.

-Declan
NODE f13627d6Re: crypto and bagpipes [NOISE]
On Fri, 28 Jun 1996, Declan B. McCullagh wrote:

> Excerpts from internet.cypherpunks: 27-Jun-96 Re: crypto and bagpipes
> [NO.. by "Perry E. Metzger"@pierm 
> > No one who has heard sustained bagpipe playing can deny the fact that
> > bagpipes are indeed an instrument of war, with no legitimate place in
> > peaceful everyday society.
> 
> Hmm... Carnegie Mellon University is the only school in the country with
> a bagpipe major, you know. You haven't lived until you've heard a
> screeching 'pipe at 3 am in front of Hunt Library.

	And after, you _aren't_ alive.

Petro, Christopher C.
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NODE 75970be5Re: crypto and bagpipes [NOISE]
Damnit, Perry, the fact that you don't like them doesn't mean we
should outlaw them!  :)

Adam

Perry E. Metzger wrote:
| vinnie moscaritolo writes:
| > >>>A Missive From: David Kovar (kovar@nda.com)
| [...]
| > >>>Mr Brooks, the piper, has denied the charge, citing a case in 1746,
| > >>>where bagpipes were declared to be instruments of war, not musical
| > >>>instruments, and a subsequent Act of Parliament which specifically
| > >>>stated that they were weapons. He claims he wasn't playing a musical
| > >>>instrument, but practising with a weapon!
| > >>>
| > >>>The imagination boggles if his claim is successful!
| 
| No one who has heard sustained bagpipe playing can deny the fact that
| bagpipes are indeed an instrument of war, with no legitimate place in
| peaceful everyday society.
| 
| Perry
| 


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