[Noise] Re: Java

s1113645@tesla.cc.uottawa.ca writes:
> [...](One thing that detractors of
> Smalltalk claim is that it is slow--slower than Java. However there is a
> research dialect from Sun called Self which is supposed to be 50% as fast
> as C.)

Self also give a new meaning to phrase "code bloat."  A 'Hello, world!'
that requires more than a megabyte kind of kills any enthusiasm one might
or a language which otherwise takes a neat slant message passing...
[Although I gave up before version 4.0 so maybe things have gotten better]

jim