NODE c385fe2dHow to explain crypto?
declan@well.com (Declan McCullagh)Wed, 5 Jun 1996 10:53:50 +0800
Brock, the crypto-challenged, humbly apologizes for his gaffe. He was
looking for a way to draw an understandable comparison of how much harder a
1024-bit implementation of RSA is to break than what current export
controls allow.
He's asking for suggestions on how in future articles he could word this so
a layman could understand it... Preferably something that could be said in
a few sentences. (Brock cops to the fact that it does an incredible
disservice to a complex topic. Remember, tho, he writes for a broad
audience with a way diverse range of understanding -- or misunderstanding,
as the case may be!)
For example, someone sent me this explanation:
"The 1024 bit key is likely an RSA key, and is not comperable to a 40 bit
symetric key. From memory, 1024 bit RSA is about as hard to crack as 90
bit symetric."
Is this a reasonable comparison?
-Declan
NODE f2652ed2Re: How to explain crypto?
Ben Holiday <ncognito@gate.net>Wed, 5 Jun 1996 17:06:38 +0800
Im quoting directly from the PGP manual from pgp2.6.2:
"People who work in factoring research say that the workload to
exhaust all the possible 128-bit keys in the IDEA cipher would
roughly equal the factoring workload to crack a 3100-bit RSA key,
which is quite a bit bigger than the 1024-bit RSA key size that most
people use for high security applications..."
If we take phil at his word, I would say that comparing 90bit symetric to
1024bit RSA would be a bit generous to RSA.
On Tue, 4 Jun 1996, Declan McCullagh wrote:
> "The 1024 bit key is likely an RSA key, and is not comperable to a 40 bit
> symetric key. From memory, 1024 bit RSA is about as hard to crack as 90
> bit symetric."
>
> Is this a reasonable comparison?
>
> -Declan
>
>
NODE 9d5505f0Re: How to explain crypto?
"Perry E. Metzger" <perry@piermont.com>Thu, 6 Jun 1996 01:00:55 +0800
Ben Holiday writes:
> Im quoting directly from the PGP manual from pgp2.6.2:
>
> "People who work in factoring research say that the workload to
> exhaust all the possible 128-bit keys in the IDEA cipher would
> roughly equal the factoring workload to crack a 3100-bit RSA key,
> which is quite a bit bigger than the 1024-bit RSA key size that most
> people use for high security applications..."
>
> If we take phil at his word, I would say that comparing 90bit symetric to
> 1024bit RSA would be a bit generous to RSA.
It is very far from clear that Phil was right.
As I said, these comparisons are all based on insufficient data. I
don't think they are a great idea.
Perry