Re: Insults (was: PBS show)

At 10:26 PM 6/12/96 -0700, Timothy C. May wrote:
>I personally despise the term "nerd," but I won't get into that here.
>(Except to say that "nerds," "geeks," and "dweebs" are terms of insult, and
>anyone who accepts this labelling by the media and by "jerks" (a comparable
>term, by the way) is proably just a dweeb anyone, so I guess the term is
>accurate.)

IMHO the best way to deal with an insult is to make it a badge of pride. 
This is how my ancestors in revolutionary New England dealt with being
called Yankees.  It beats hell out of trying to force the rest of the world
to call your group something different every 10 years of so, like some
groups have been doing.


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On Thu, 13 Jun 1996, Bill Frantz wrote:

> At 10:26 PM 6/12/96 -0700, Timothy C. May wrote:
> >I personally despise the term "nerd," but I won't get into that here.
> >(Except to say that "nerds," "geeks," and "dweebs" are terms of insult, and

> IMHO the best way to deal with an insult is to make it a badge of pride. 

Geek Pride! Yes! Time to start Hacked-Up!

"We're Freaks! We're Geeks! We've got RSA, Get Used To It"

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Simon:

On Thu, 13 Jun 1996, Simon Spero wrote:

> On Thu, 13 Jun 1996, Bill Frantz wrote:
> > At 10:26 PM 6/12/96 -0700, Timothy C. May wrote:
> > >I personally despise the term "nerd," but I won't get into that here.
> > >(Except to say that "nerds," "geeks," and "dweebs" are terms of insult,
> > IMHO the best way to deal with an insult is to make it a badge of pride. 
> Geek Pride! Yes! Time to start Hacked-Up!
> "We're Freaks! We're Geeks! We've got RSA, Get Used To It"

	Note in passing that both "Baptist" and "Mormon" were 
	originally terms of insult heaped on members of those
	respective faiths.  

        xan

        jonathon
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In message <Pine.3.89.9606140305.A10802-0100000@netcom19>, jonathon writes:
>	Note in passing that both "Baptist" and "Mormon" were 
>	originally terms of insult heaped on members of those
>	respective faiths.  

	I think "Quaker" had a similar history..

	Derek Bell

Derek Bell writes:
 > In message <Pine.3.89.9606140305.A10802-0100000@netcom19>, jonathon writes:
 > >	Note in passing that both "Baptist" and "Mormon" were 
 > >	originally terms of insult heaped on members of those
 > >	respective faiths.  
 > 
 > 	I think "Quaker" had a similar history..

Yes, as does "Queer".  But the "crypto-" prefix has an additional
meaning that may make its use somewhat problematic.  A "crypto-"
something can be a "fake-" or "hidden-" something.  So if it actually
became popular to be a geek, you'd have cool people becoming
crypto-geeks.

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On Thu, 13 Jun 1996, Simon Spero wrote:

> On Thu, 13 Jun 1996, Bill Frantz wrote:
> 
> > At 10:26 PM 6/12/96 -0700, Timothy C. May wrote:
> > >I personally despise the term "nerd," but I won't get into that here.
> > >(Except to say that "nerds," "geeks," and "dweebs" are terms of insult, and
> 
> > IMHO the best way to deal with an insult is to make it a badge of pride. 
> 
> Geek Pride! Yes! Time to start Hacked-Up!
> 
> "We're Freaks! We're Geeks! We've got RSA, Get Used To It"
	
	We're freaks, we're geeks, we've got your data and we're not
afraid to use it?

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