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Re: CookieScan 0.0 rev 0

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NODE 0ae7a478Re: CookieScan 0.0 rev 0
>Subject:     Re: CookieScan 0.0 rev 0
>Sent:        7/15/96 4:57 PM
>Received:    7/15/96 6:01 PM
>From:        Jeff Weinstein, jsw@netscape.com
>To:          Christopher Hull, nozefngr@apple.com
>CC:          cypherpunks@toad.com
>
>Christopher Hull wrote:
>> What I imagine is a little utility that would
>> display the cookies stashed on a machine and
>> give the user the option to either delete or
>> <snicker> edit </snicker> any given cookie.
>> (Hey, it¹s *your* computer, not the website¹s).
>
>  I doubt that you will have much luck here.  Many (most??) sites
>that use cookies tend to encode or obscure them so that they are not
>human readable.  Certainly anyone doing something questionable
>will obscure their cookies so that they will not be user readable
>or editable.
>
I agree.  Editing is problematic.

It would be difficult to decode intentionally
hidden information.  The user may suspect strange and not
obvious stuff in a site's given cookie.  Then what may
happen is the user will "vote with their mouse" and stop
using a site that encripts cookie data (or perhaps not).

In any case the user will at least have the knowledge
that the cookie exists.  Those that do not encrypt may
provide other interesting information.

-Chris



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NODE b94e5e2eRe: CookieScan 0.0 rev 0
> >Christopher Hull wrote:
> >> What I imagine is a little utility that would
> >> display the cookies stashed on a machine and
> >> give the user the option to either delete or
> >> <snicker> edit </snicker> any given cookie.
> >> (Hey, it¹s *your* computer, not the website¹s).
> >
> >  I doubt that you will have much luck here.  Many (most??) sites
> >that use cookies tend to encode or obscure them so that they are not
> >human readable.  Certainly anyone doing something questionable
> >will obscure their cookies so that they will not be user readable
> >or editable.
> >
> I agree.  Editing is problematic.
> 

Yes, editing is difficult, often a trial-and-error effort if you don't 
know what the site is looking for. You generally end up with a cookie 
that is ignored by the server, which then acts as though no cookie were 
involved.

I have yet to see a "damaging" cookie, outside of the stupidity of trying 
to pass a plain-text password across the 'net for storage on the client. 
Anybody seen any interesting problematic cookies?

- r.w.