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NODE 11785e78Re: One of the biggest problems with freedom
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I forget who said " The price of freedom is eternal vigilance"  but it
applies to threats both foreign and domestic. This includes the government.
I trust no one absolutely. And I among many others have helped to pay for
what freedom we have left.
( He said, in a movin' to Idaho kinda way )

cheers

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At 08:23 AM 7/25/96 -0700, you wrote:
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>What our biggest problem is, is that people want the
>government to protect them from the oh so evil terrorists,
>and they will willingingly have shackles put on them,
>and rejoice when it is done.
>
>I know people who WANT the government to take away their
>rights for security, and its a lot of people, and its
>far too many people.
>
>Example:  "I don't care if the government has my keys
>for encryption.  I don't do anything wrong, and if it
>helps FBI enforce our just laws, I am all for it.  Since
>anyone who tries to get keys without legal means will end
>up in Leavenworth for the rest of their life, there is
>no problems with people getting access to those things."
>
>When I try to refute the logic:
>
>"I don't care about the bill of rights... I don't want to
>have to split my family up on separate flights so there is
>a chance of some of them arriving without dying.  I want
>the security of knowing I can fly okay without being
>blown up, thank you very much.  Signapore has little or
>no crime since the people give up their rights for a common
>good."
>
>Problem with freedom is people don't use it... and like
>a limb, will wither and fall off if not used.
>
>Our basic item should be trying to get the masses to figure
>out that freedom is important and should not be construed
>as a gift from the government.
>
>
>
NODE e4c771dcFreedom, crypto, and terrorism
At 2:24 PM -0700 7/25/96, Charley Sparks wrote:
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>I forget who said " The price of freedom is eternal vigilance"  but it
>applies to threats both foreign and domestic. This includes the government.
>I trust no one absolutely. And I among many others have helped to pay for
>what freedom we have left.
>( He said, in a movin' to Idaho kinda way )

It was "Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty."

I have just revised my views on the topic of freedom, crypto, and terrorism
as a result of reading Benjamin Netanyahu's new book (a few months old) on
terrorism and what the West can do about it, in one sitting. The book was
written before he became Prime Minister.

So as not to start a flame war here, let me just say that no intelligent
person can discuss this subject without having read Netanyahu's book. It
should be required reading for every American.

No--I'm not going to say what my views now are. Let me just say that in
about 150 very closely reasoned pages, with lots of both historical and
current evidence, Netanyahu has brought me around totally in support of his
views and his prescription for the United States--and I understand much
better now why his positions on Israeli policy are directly in the vital
interests of the United States. Readers wishing an explanation for certain
recent US policies, as well as a guide to likely future ones will benefit
from this book, whose influence has reached the highest circles of US
leadership.

Informed readers will know what I mean. Those who aren't should become so
informed by reading the book. I would be happy to entertain a discussion of
the book via private e-mail with those who have read it.

David
NODE 242342b4Re: Freedom, crypto, and terrorism
At 11:56 PM -0700 7/25/96, David Sternlight wrote:

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>I have just revised my views on the topic of freedom, crypto, and terrorism
>as a result of reading Benjamin Netanyahu's new book (a few months old) on
>terrorism and what the West can do about it, in one sitting. The book was
>written before he became Prime Minister.

Several have asked me about this by e-mail. The title of the book is
"Fighting Terrorism--How democracies can defeat domestic and international
terrorism."

The first chapter of the book may be read free at:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/style/longterm/books/chap1/fighting.htm

Netanyahu's recommendations are in the final chapter of the book.

David