Chancellor Group (symbol = CHAG)

http://chancellor.stockpick.com

Chancellor Group, Inc. (symbol CHAG) just reported big quarterly earnings.
SGA Goldstar issued a "buy" recommendation.  I understand other investment
advisors are looking to recommend CHAG. The company has a strong book value.
The short sellers need to cover.  This looks like a good situation to me.
What do you think?  They are located at:

	http://chancellor.stockpick.com

Bob Williams, 206-269-0846 

To terminate from my Investment Opportunities, Reply to 
chag@moneyworld.com with "remove" in the subject field.

On Thu, 11 Jul 1996 chag@moneyworld.com wrote:

> http://chancellor.stockpick.com
> 
> Chancellor Group, Inc. (symbol CHAG) just reported big quarterly earnings.
> SGA Goldstar issued a "buy" recommendation.  I understand other investment
> advisors are looking to recommend CHAG. The company has a strong book value.
> The short sellers need to cover.  This looks like a good situation to me.
> What do you think?  They are located at:

I think you have stock in the company and are looking to boost its value
by using what amounts to the elevator trick.

> 
> 	http://chancellor.stockpick.com
> 
> Bob Williams, 206-269-0846 
> 
> To terminate from my Investment Opportunities, Reply to 
> chag@moneyworld.com with "remove" in the subject field. 
> 

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Note that the referenced web server is in another domain owned by this
same Bob Williams.  Perhaps his misleading unsolicited investment advice
is part of a package deal provided to companies who buy his web service.

On Fri, 12 Jul 1996, Black Unicorn wrote:

> On Thu, 11 Jul 1996 chag@moneyworld.com wrote:
>
> > http://chancellor.stockpick.com
>
> I think you have stock in the company and are looking to boost its value
> by using what amounts to the elevator trick.
>
> >
> > 	http://chancellor.stockpick.com
> >
> > Bob Williams, 206-269-0846
> >

Lou Poppler writes:
> 
> Note that the referenced web server is in another domain owned by this
> same Bob Williams.  Perhaps his misleading unsolicited investment advice
> is part of a package deal provided to companies who buy his web service.


He's been flogging the same shit for a while- I've received three or four
of these spams at another address that I use to make Usenet posts.

That address is an account at a large workstation company that I
consult for.  I've been getting a lot of spam there.
I suggested on an internal mailing list that the amount of spam
that various employees there are getting isn't insignificant and
that perhaps they should sue some of the spammers for wasting
the company's resources and employee time without permission.

I suggest that the "anti-junk-fax" law might be extended to cover
spam mail.  However I don't trust net-clueless legislators to
be able to make even a simple law without fucking it up and
restricting civil liberties.  However, I heard from a friend
that they're doing just that, extending the junk fax law
to cover junk email.  Something like a $500 fine for
each junk email.  Does anyone know more?

Would mailing-list operators be liable under this law when
someone forges a subscription message from "clinton@whitehouse.gov"?


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barer@cyberspace.com
abuse@mci.net
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>
>	FYI: I've been forwarding complaints about the moneyworld spam
>to the following addresses:
>
>dyno@cyberspace.com
>barer@cyberspace.com
>abuse@mci.net
>enforcement@sec.gov
>

Our site is being systematically spammed (slowly) one user at a time.
I setup a procmail filter that bounces the mail globally, and sends a
copy to hostmaster at mci.net (with a little note about litigation for
harassment and unauthorized use of resources for good measure.)
And yes, we just got another VRFY just now..


Tell tale signs:

If you start getting VRFY's from 208.129.19.69 (moneyworld.com) then
you're going to receiving email from chag@moneyworld.com very shortly
thereafter.

(for those unaware - VRFY is an SMTP command to verify an email address.
Some sites disable them, other sites trap them, some do nothing at all)

I don't know who the right person to complain to is, but it sure is
irritating. I think I'll start CC'ing abuse@mci.net as well.

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On Thu, 18 Jul 1996, Doug Hughes wrote:

> >	FYI: I've been forwarding complaints about the moneyworld spam
> >to the following addresses:
> >
> >dyno@cyberspace.com
> >barer@cyberspace.com
> >abuse@mci.net
> >enforcement@sec.gov
> 
<snip>
> I don't know who the right person to complain to is, but it sure is
> irritating. I think I'll start CC'ing abuse@mci.net as well.

The Oracle of the Internet (and other sources) report that:

The spam is coming from Financial Connections, Inc.
Their smail address is:
   2508 5th Avenue, Suite 104
   Seattle, Washington 98121

Their SA is Robert (Bob) Williams.  His voice mail box, available at
206.269.0846, is full right now but get those war-dialers ready just in
case.

Also, his e-mail address is "dyno@cyberspace.com".  It's not known if he
has any anti-mailbomb fixtures (yet) in place at this time.

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>He's been flogging the same shit for a while- I've received three or four
>of these spams at another address that I use to make Usenet posts.

I've just noticed that one of my test mailboxes has received two of
these.

The only thing it has ever posted is to alt.test!

That makes it look like a HUGE spam.

Best wishes,
Matthew

On Thu, 11 Jul 1996 chag@moneyworld.com wrote:

> http://chancellor.stockpick.com
> 
> Chancellor Group, Inc. (symbol CHAG) just reported big quarterly earnings.
> SGA Goldstar issued a "buy" recommendation.  I understand other investment
> advisors are looking to recommend CHAG. The company has a strong book value.
> The short sellers need to cover.  This looks like a good situation to me.
> What do you think?  They are located at:
> 
> 	http://chancellor.stockpick.com
> 
> Bob Williams, 206-269-0846 
> 
> To terminate from my Investment Opportunities, Reply to 
> chag@moneyworld.com with "remove" in the subject field. 

Ugghhh!

This guy's gotta get stopped somehow. Is there an Anti-SPAM list that
would be more appropriate for this?
---------------------------------------------------------------------

'whois moneyworld.com'
registered to Bob Williams <dyno@cyberspace.com>
No hosts seem to be active in the moneyworld.com domain except
usa1.moneyworld.com [208.129.19.69]  - even the name server is dead. us1
is an outgoing-only SMTP server AFAIK - can't connect to port 25, but the
spam came from that host most likely.

'whois stockpick.com'
registered to Bob Williams <dyno@cyberspace.com>

'finger dyno@cyberspace.com'
[cyberspace.com]
Account Name:  Peter Johnson
Email address: dyno@cyberspace.com

'lynx http://www.cyberspace.com/~dyno/'
Shows directories for chag, netamerica, and natureplus.
chag has the (phony) investment reports.
natureplus shows a bunch of stuff trying to advertise holistic medicine
("Herbs, Minerals, Vitamins & Extracts").

Lookie here - netamerica must be the name of his 'real' company. Has a
bunch of information, the title of the main page is "Direct Internet
Marketing & Financial Public Relations"

Going to the chancellor.stockpick.com pages says that the name of the
company, however, is 'Financial Connections, Inc.'

Looks like this guy is:
	- Going under a fake name/names
	- Advertising by abusing the Internet
	- Using as many company names as he has pairs of underwear

> Ugghhh!
> 
> This guy's gotta get stopped somehow. Is there an Anti-SPAM list that
> would be more appropriate for this?

As I said, this is raw meat for the SEC. See their web page.
The more complaints, the better....

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For the web-impared interested in complaining to the SEC about the
twits who keep sending us "big invenstment secrets," I submit the
following, from http://www.sec.gov/consumer/seefraud.htm

Seen a Potential On-Line Fraud?
Tell Us About It!

We want to hear about securities fraud appearing on-line, by telephone or in the mail. The specialists in the SEC's
Office of Investor Education and Assistance can also answer your questions or help you to try to resolve your
complaints. 

You can reach the SEC by calling (202) 942-7040 or by visiting our web site at www.sec.gov. Look for our e-mail
address, which will appear shortly. 

You can also write to: 

     Securities and Exchange Commission
     Office of Investor Education & Assistance
     450 Fifth Street, N.W. Mail Stop 11-2
     Washington, D.C. 20549 

If you have seen a potential on-line investment fraud, call the SEC's Internet Fraud Hotline at (202) 942-4647. 

To reach your state securities regulator, check our state government section, in your phone book, or call the North
American Securities Administrators Association (NASAA), Inc. at (202) 737-0900 

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