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Re: ALL OF YOU ARE CRIMINAL HACKERS, I AM GOING TO CALL FBI

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NODE 1f8f7648Re: ALL OF YOU ARE CRIMINAL HACKERS, I AM GOING TO CALL FBI
>I AM NOT GOING TO TOLERATE EXISTENCE OF A MEDIUM FOR CRIMINAL HACKERS
>AND MUNITIONS SMUGGLERS. I WILL COMPLAIN TO THE FBI IMMEDIATELY SO THAT THEY
>CAN TRACK YOU DOWN AND CLOSE THIS LIST.


Tips for reporting this 'clandestine' list to the FBI (and it's contributors)

1) Be sure to speak slowly and use small words when contacting the FBI.
2) If you can, be sure to work the words 'Pipe Bomb', 'Olympics', and/or
'TWA' into your sentences.
3) Remember to unsubscribe from the list before reporting it.
4) Try not to be belligerant when the talking with the FBI -  RE: tracking
down cpunks; they're laughing at you, already.
5) Try not to use the word 'inbred' in your report..they seem particullarly
sensitive to this...for some reason.
6) When meeting FBI in person, do not wear shiny objects or bright colors -
it distracts them.
7) When calling the FBI hotline, don't ask to speak to someone about
munition smuggling AND computers crimez - this will put the operator into
coma.
8) Be sure to ask for special agent 'Fox Mulder' and 'Dana Sculley' -
they're 'the best'

9)

10)...

_______
Warren Crossfield
Programmer/MacOS
"Buy a Pentium - so you can restart Windoze faster!"
NODE be9c4fd1Re: ALL OF YOU ARE CRIMINAL HACKERS, I AM GOING TO CALL FBI
anonymous-remailer@shell.portal.com writes:
>
> Tips for reporting this 'clandestine' list to the FBI (and it's contributors)
                                                               ^
> 1) Be sure to speak slowly and use small words when contacting the FBI.
...
> _______
> Warren Crossfield
> Programmer/MacOS
> "Buy a Pentium - so you can restart Windoze faster!"

11. When using an anonymous remailer, strip your signature.

12. Don't rely on a Mac spellchecker.

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Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM
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NODE 8146d2f2TLAs on cypherpnks (was Re: ALL OF YOU ARE CRIMINAL HACKERS)
Excerpts from internet.cypherpunks: 28-Jul-96 Re: ALL OF YOU ARE
CRIMINAL.. by anonymous-remailer@shell 
> Tips for reporting this 'clandestine' list to the FBI (and it's contributors)
>  
> 1) Be sure to speak slowly and use small words when contacting the FBI.
> 2) If you can, be sure to work the words 'Pipe Bomb', 'Olympics', and/or
> 'TWA' into your sentences.
> 3) Remember to unsubscribe from the list before reporting it.

At a recent conference in downtown DC, I was chatting with a few folks
in the hotel bar. One of 'em was reminiscing about his days at the CIA
and I reminded him that during my presentation earlier that day I talked
about crypto-anarchy (giving appropriate credit to Tim May, of course).

I asked him if he had ever monitored the cypherpunks list. "No, I
didn't. It was too high-traffic," he said. "But the guy in the next
office over from me did."

Is this the first confirmed report of TLA cypherpunk-monitoring?

-Declan
NODE d4b3924eRe: TLAs on cypherpnks (was Re: ALL OF YOU ARE CRIMINAL HACKERS)
Cute story. But it's not "confirmed".

Well, it might be if you want to hold yourself to the journalistic 
standards of the Mall crowd.
NODE 6093ff7eRe: TLAs on cypherpnks (was Re: ALL OF YOU ARE CRIMINAL HACKERS)
I believe my source, who's given me nothing but accurate information
before. YMMV, and you will of course filter this through how much you
trust *me* to evaluate him. But in the absence of a formal statement from
the NSA legal counsel, I think this as good as it gets. 

-Declan


On Sun, 28 Jul 1996, Alan Horowitz wrote:

> Cute story. But it's not "confirmed".
> 
> Well, it might be if you want to hold yourself to the journalistic 
> standards of the Mall crowd.
> 


// declan@eff.org // I do not represent the EFF // declan@well.com //
NODE 6efdba53Re: TLAs on cypherpnks (was Re: ALL OF YOU ARE CRIMINAL HACKERS)
+ I believe my source, who's given me nothing but accurate information
+ before. YMMV, and you will of course filter this through how much you
+ trust *me* to evaluate him. But in the absence of a formal statement from
+ the NSA legal counsel, I think this as good as it gets. 
+ 
+ -Declan

Well, you can always check on the subscribers list.  There are several
addresses from NSA in there (for example ncsc.mil).