NODE 01bdbb30RE: Reverse Engineer
"Bill Olson (EDP)" <a-billol@microsoft.com>Sat, 20 Jul 1996 14:41:24 +0800
>
>What do you mean by "reverse engineer?" I have heard this word several times
>especially in the world of hacking, but... can someone tell me what it really
>meant?
Reverse engineering is process of 'mimicking' the specifications of
another product by copying the 'abstract interface' of it. Example:
I write a desktop application that greatly increases employee
productivity, and it sells like hotcakes. Another company decides that I
am gaining too much market share with my product and decides to reverse
engineer the product so that they can create a competing product. They
hire an engineer who takes the program and analyzes the input and output
with a detailed script of test patterns (heaven forbid he might even
decompile the program and snoop). By doing so, he now has a complete
product specification minus the implementation (i.e. how it works). He
then takes the product specification and gives it to another engineer
(actually it's done through 'clean' liaisons) who then creates a product
that does the exact same thing as mine--but with a different
implementation process. Because the product copies the specification and
not the implementation, it does not infringe on copyrights or patents.
NODE 0538c616Re: Reverse Engineer
"Peter D. Junger" <junger@pdj2-ra.F-REMOTE.CWRU.Edu>Sun, 21 Jul 1996 01:24:57 +0800
"Bill Olson (EDP)" writes:
: Reverse engineering is process of 'mimicking' the specifications of
: another product by copying the 'abstract interface' of it. Example:
:
: I write a desktop application that greatly increases employee
: productivity, and it sells like hotcakes. Another company decides that I
: am gaining too much market share with my product and decides to reverse
: engineer the product so that they can create a competing product. They
: hire an engineer who takes the program and analyzes the input and output
: with a detailed script of test patterns (heaven forbid he might even
: decompile the program and snoop). By doing so, he now has a complete
: product specification minus the implementation (i.e. how it works). He
: then takes the product specification and gives it to another engineer
: (actually it's done through 'clean' liaisons) who then creates a product
: that does the exact same thing as mine--but with a different
: implementation process. Because the product copies the specification and
: not the implementation, it does not infringe on copyrights or patents.
Good explanation. But note that reverse engineering is not a way of
getting around patent violations. It only works to protect oneself from
copyright violations, since a reverse-engineered product is not
(arguably) a copy of the original. It is also useful when the actual
workings of the original, or the way the original is made, is a (trade)
secret.
--
Peter D. Junger--Case Western Reserve University Law School--Cleveland, OH
Internet: junger@pdj2-ra.f-remote.cwru.edu junger@samsara.law.cwru.edu
NODE 64de87b1Re: Reverse Engineer
David Sternlight <david@sternlight.com>Sun, 21 Jul 1996 04:45:15 +0800
At 8:14 AM -0700 7/20/96, Peter D. Junger wrote:
>"Bill Olson (EDP)" writes:
>
>: Reverse engineering is process of 'mimicking' the specifications of
>: another product by copying the 'abstract interface' of it. Example:
>:
>: I write a desktop application that greatly increases employee
>: productivity, and it sells like hotcakes. Another company decides that I
>: am gaining too much market share with my product and decides to reverse
>: engineer the product so that they can create a competing product. They
>: hire an engineer who takes the program and analyzes the input and output
>: with a detailed script of test patterns (heaven forbid he might even
>: decompile the program and snoop). By doing so, he now has a complete
>: product specification minus the implementation (i.e. how it works). He
>: then takes the product specification and gives it to another engineer
>: (actually it's done through 'clean' liaisons) who then creates a product
>: that does the exact same thing as mine--but with a different
>: implementation process. Because the product copies the specification and
>: not the implementation, it does not infringe on copyrights or patents.
>
>Good explanation. But note that reverse engineering is not a way of
>getting around patent violations. It only works to protect oneself from
>copyright violations, since a reverse-engineered product is not
>(arguably) a copy of the original. It is also useful when the actual
>workings of the original, or the way the original is made, is a (trade)
>secret.
Important comment.
Further, as I understand it if an implementation is obvious to one
practiced in the art, one's ability to protect such an implementation is
also limited.
David