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Overwelmed with Stupidity...

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NODE bf9f209aOverwelmed with Stupidity...
Ok, ok... Let me say something, but I don't want anyone to take this wrong. I'm not 
trying to be stupid, but I don't have half the knowledge you all seem to posses. For 
instance what the heck is a TRS-80, DES, or even GAK? I probabl;y know or have heard 
but, I'm not picking up on the three letter words. So, if you could help meout maybe I 
just might be able to start contributing activly to this mailer!
NODE e51b017bOlympic bombing
Hi all

I can just see the FBI screaming "we need weaker encryption to combat
terrosism on US soil" with nasty effects -- it seems all to many people,
lawmakers included, will be only to happy to sacrifice their privacy that
the FBI can better combat these terrorist acts (which could *of course*
could been prevented had only the FBI been able to read their encrypted
mail...)

Somehow I got the feeling watching CNN that the FBI was given a shitload
of ammo. Call me cynical but the Reichstag fire comes to mind... 

Later
Mike

___________________

"Those that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
 safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin (1773)
NODE ed049754Re: Olympic bombing
Just heard Newt mumbling about the need for better intelligence 
monitoring and *more* "anti-terrorist" legislation.

Bet you're right.

bd


On Sat, 27 Jul 1996, Mike van der Merwe wrote:

> 
> Hi all
> 
> I can just see the FBI screaming "we need weaker encryption to combat
> terrosism on US soil" with nasty effects -- it seems all to many people,
> lawmakers included, will be only to happy to sacrifice their privacy that
> the FBI can better combat these terrorist acts (which could *of course*
> could been prevented had only the FBI been able to read their encrypted
> mail...)
> 
> Somehow I got the feeling watching CNN that the FBI was given a shitload
> of ammo. Call me cynical but the Reichstag fire comes to mind... 
> 
> Later
> Mike
> 
> ___________________
> 
> "Those that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
>  safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin (1773)
> 
>
NODE a3ccbcfeRe: Overwelmed with Stupidity...
Shaun Clark <jacquard@teleport.com> writes:

 > Ok, ok... Let me say something, but I don't want anyone to
 > take this wrong. I'm not trying to be stupid, but I don't
 > have half the knowledge you all seem to posses.

That's ok.  Welcome to the list.

 > For instance what the heck is a TRS-80, DES, or even GAK? I
 > probabl;y know or have heard but, I'm not picking up on the
 > three letter words. So, if you could help meout maybe I just
 > might be able to start contributing activly to this mailer!

TRS stands for "Technical Report Series." These are put out
periodically by the computer science departments of major
universities.  TRS-80 is a monograph titled - "The Sternlight
Effect: The Application of Nonlinear Matched Filters to the
Reduction of Additive Gaussian Noise in Usenet Articles."

DES stands for "Diethylstilbestrol", a synthetic estrogen given
to women at high risk for miscarriage in the 1950's.  Its use was
discontinued when the daughters of those who took it were
discovered to have a high incidence of vaginal and cervical
adenocarcinomas.  Male offspring suffered no life-threatening
health problems from prenatal DES exposure, but were often
afflicted with TWS. (Teeny Weeny Syndrome)

And finally, GAK is the name for the green slime frequently seen
to cover people on Nickelodeon, the childrens' cable channel.  It
is prepared from a variety of non-toxic ingredients in the
Nickelodeon kitchens, and supposedly is safe to ingest, should
one feel motivated to do so.

Now that you know the secret Three Letter Abbreviations, you are
an official Cypherpunk.  Congratulations.

--
     Mike Duvos         $    PGP 2.6 Public Key available     $
     mpd@netcom.com     $    via Finger.                      $
NODE 69e2f076Re: Overwelmed with Stupidity...
On Sat, 27 Jul 1996, Shaun Clark wrote:

> Ok, ok... Let me say something, but I don't want anyone to take this wrong. I'm not 
> trying to be stupid, but I don't have half the knowledge you all seem to posses. For 
> instance what the heck is a TRS-80, DES, or even GAK? I probabl;y know or have heard 
> but, I'm not picking up on the three letter words. So, if you could help meout maybe I 
> just might be able to start contributing activly to this mailer!
> 

     Don't worry about TRS-80, if you are lucky, you will never need to know,
and if you are unlucky, well, let the horror wait until that point. 
     GAK is Government Access to Keys. 
     As for DES and the rest, try the standard primer Applied Cryptography, 
Protocols, Algorithms and Source Code in C by Bruse Schneier.


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