NODE 71ca41c2Re: NBC
Martin Minow <minow@apple.com>Wed, 31 Jul 1996 05:27:41 +0800
>So how was the tv hacker presentation? I was one interveiwed and was in
>las vegas at defcon when it aired. I never saw the final product.
>
>se7en
About what I expected: "We're only exploring, we're not trying to
damage anything, etc." -- I didn't tape it so I can't give you
more than that impression.
Since I've been in this business for well over thirty years and,
about ten years ago, had one of my systems infested by Kevin
Mitnick, I'm not particularly sympathetic to the "we're just
trying to learn" mentality -- if you want to learn, buy a PC
and a Linux CD, write some code, give it away, and make a real
contribution to the community.
Martin.
NODE 96fdec43Re: NBC
se7en <se7en@dis.org>Wed, 31 Jul 1996 18:20:55 +0800
On Tue, 30 Jul 1996, Martin Minow wrote:
> Since I've been in this business for well over thirty years and,
> about ten years ago, had one of my systems infested by Kevin
> Mitnick, I'm not particularly sympathetic to the "we're just
> trying to learn" mentality -- if you want to learn, buy a PC
> and a Linux CD, write some code, give it away, and make a real
> contribution to the community.
The taped interview lasted more than two hours, with only five minutes
airing, so a lot of statements from our mouth is still out of context.
As far as your learning suggestions, I have over 17 years of experience
in this "underground community", have owned every type of machine
available, can safely guess I have written a large amount of source code
equivelent to some of the best, always give it away, and can definitely
say I have made more a contribution than you could ever hope for in your
wildest dreams. :)
Dealing with the media is a double edge sword. They contacted me, gaveme
their bent, and tpaed with me. You can figure out of two hours of tape,
that with five minutes showing, vaery mnay important points got left out
which would have put aired statements into context. You never know what
they, and their editors, ultimately put in the story, for which I have
yet to see due to my presence at Defcon.
Know who you flame before you do so. :) No hard feelings.
se7en