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Re: Bernstein files for partial summary judgement in crypto case

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NODE b2ed4ab7Re: Bernstein files for partial summary judgement in crypto case
At 05:28 PM 7/25/96 -0700, John Gilmore wrote:
>Here's the press release on the latest development in the Bernstein
>case.  

>July 26, 1996  				     Electronic Frontier Foundation 
>In his 45-page memorandum in support of his motion, Bernstein sets forth
>several First Amendment arguments: 

>*       Any legal framework that requires a license for First Amendment
>protected speech, which may be granted or withheld at the discretion of a
>government official, is a prior restraint on speech.  In order for this
>framework to be acceptable, the government has the burden of showing that
>publication will "surely result in direct, immediate, and irreparable
>damage to our Nation or its people" and that the regulation at issue is
>necessary to prevent this damage.  The government has not met this burden
>regarding the ITAR legal framework. 

Maybe it's just me, but why would even the _certainty_ that a publication 
will "surely result in direct, immediate, and irreparable damage to our 
Nation or its people" justify violation of 1st amendment rights?   There 
are, certainly, kinds of "damage" which should not warrant prohibition:  If, 
for instance, a business regularly cheats its customers, my investigation of 
that behavior and revealing it publicly would certain "damage" that 
business, but we conclude that's justified if for no other reason than it's 
the truth.  

Would digging up an embarrassing revelation about "our Nation or its people" 
constitute "irreparable damage" sufficient to justify concluding that the 
1st amendment didn't apply?  Had the fact that we'd slaughtered Indians in 
the late 1800's been kept secret until today, would its discovery and 
publication be that "irreparable damage" that regulation could legitimately 
seek to prohibit?  Would the news that the events leading up to the "Gulf of 
Tonkin resolution" were a fraud cause "irreparable damage"?  Would finding 
out the truth about the Watergate incident cause "irreparable damage"?    

In a sense, speaking of any of these incidents might cause "irreparable 
damage"  to government and people, but it's "damage" that a person should 
simply be entitled to do, given the concepts of free speech and the 1st 
amendment.

In short, I don't think Bernstein should give an inch.  There may, in fact, 
be limits on the 1st amendment, but I don't see this as being one of them.



Jim Bell
jimbell@pacifier.com
NODE a0cf43a9Re: Bernstein files for partial summary judgement in crypto
jim bell wrote:
> Would digging up an embarrassing revelation about "our Nation or its people" 
> constitute "irreparable damage" sufficient to justify concluding that the 
> 1st amendment didn't apply?  Had the fact that we'd slaughtered Indians in 
> the late 1800's been kept secret until today, would its discovery and 
> publication be that "irreparable damage" that regulation could legitimately 
> seek to prohibit?  Would the news that the events leading up to the "Gulf of 
> Tonkin resolution" were a fraud cause "irreparable damage"?  Would finding 
> out the truth about the Watergate incident cause "irreparable damage"?    

Just recall how the government harassed the smithsonian institution 
for their plans to put togethrr an exhibition about bombing of japan.
i was profoundly disgusted (even though i am a militarist).


	- Igor.
NODE 9b5c8050Re: Bernstein files for partial summary judgement in crypto
It wqasn't the government who ridiculed the Smithsonian, it was private 
citizens. And if you call, letter-writing to the newspapers = harrasment, 
then you've set yourself inside a rather constrained emotional box, indeed.