Re: [RANT] Giving Mind Control Drugs to Children

First, a disclaimer:  I think adults should be allowed to ingest whatever
substances they desire, and parents should be allowed to raise their kids
without undue interference from the government.  

Having said that, I think that the major issue with Ritalin is that parents
are giving it to their children in significant percentages of the
population.  Since Ritalin is "medicine" and is prescribed by doctors, it
is assumed to be safe.  However, I would bet that many parents whose
children are on daily doses of Ritalin would not think of drinking coffee
or alcohol while pregnant or nursing.  It is important to consider that any
drug used over a period of time may have lasting (possibly negative)
effects, and that these effects are multiplied when the drugs are taken by
still-developing children.  

While it is crucial for an adult to be able to function and maintain a job,
is it really as important for a kid to be able to sit still in school?  

	Clay

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"Clay Olbon II" writes:
> While it is crucial for an adult to be able to function and maintain a job,
> is it really as important for a kid to be able to sit still in school?  

If he or she is going to learn anything, it is important to be able to
pay attention, yes.

Perry

On Wed, 10 Jul 1996, Perry E. Metzger wrote:
> "Clay Olbon II" writes:
> > While it is crucial for an adult to be able to function and maintain a job,
> > is it really as important for a kid to be able to sit still in school?  
> If he or she is going to learn anything, it is important to be able to
> pay attention, yes.

     If they were teaching anything, I bet the kid _would_ sit still. 
I sure would have been a lot less distracted.

Petro, Christopher C.
petro@suba.com <prefered for any non-list stuff>
snow@crash.suba.com

snow writes:
> On Wed, 10 Jul 1996, Perry E. Metzger wrote:
> > "Clay Olbon II" writes:
> > > While it is crucial for an adult to be able to function and maintain a jo
b,
> > > is it really as important for a kid to be able to sit still in school?  
> > If he or she is going to learn anything, it is important to be able to
> > pay attention, yes.
> 
> If they were teaching anything, I bet the kid _would_ sit still. 

I doubt it.

Perry

On Fri, 12 Jul 1996, Perry E. Metzger wrote:

> snow writes:
> > On Wed, 10 Jul 1996, Perry E. Metzger wrote:
> > > "Clay Olbon II" writes:
> > > > While it is crucial for an adult to be able to function and maintain a jo
> b,
> > > > is it really as important for a kid to be able to sit still in school?  
> > > If he or she is going to learn anything, it is important to be able to
> > > pay attention, yes.
> > If they were teaching anything, I bet the kid _would_ sit still. 
> I doubt it.

     Let me put that another way. Be much more attentive.

Petro, Christopher C.
petro@suba.com <prefered for any non-list stuff>
snow@crash.suba.com

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On Thu, 11 Jul 1996, snow wrote:

> Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 23:19:37 -0500 (CDT)
> From: snow <snow@smoke.suba.com>
> To: "Perry E. Metzger" <perry@piermont.com>
> Cc: cypherpunks@toad.com
> Subject: Re: [RANT] Giving Mind Control Drugs to Children 
> 
> On Fri, 12 Jul 1996, Perry E. Metzger wrote:
> 
> > snow writes:
> > > On Wed, 10 Jul 1996, Perry E. Metzger wrote:
> > > > "Clay Olbon II" writes:
> > > > > While it is crucial for an adult to be able to function and maintain a jo
> > b,
> > > > > is it really as important for a kid to be able to sit still in school?  
> > > > If he or she is going to learn anything, it is important to be able to
> > > > pay attention, yes.
> > > If they were teaching anything, I bet the kid _would_ sit still. 
> > I doubt it.
> 
>      Let me put that another way. Be much more attentive.
> 
> Petro, Christopher C.
> petro@suba.com <prefered for any non-list stuff>
> snow@crash.suba.com
> 
> 

Personally, being one of the aformentioned un-attentive students, must
agree.  If the subject is taught well, and the class is interesting, the
student will pay attention.

 --Deviant


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On Wed, 10 Jul 1996, Perry E. Metzger wrote:

> Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 10:59:58 -0400
> From: "Perry E. Metzger" <perry@piermont.com>
> To: Clay Olbon II <Clay.Olbon@dynetics.com>
> Cc: cypherpunks@toad.com
> Subject: Re: [RANT] Giving Mind Control Drugs to Children 
> 
> 
> "Clay Olbon II" writes:
> > While it is crucial for an adult to be able to function and maintain a job,
> > is it really as important for a kid to be able to sit still in school?  
> 
> If he or she is going to learn anything, it is important to be able to
> pay attention, yes.
> 
> Perry
> 

Thats a non-answer.  Paying attention and sitting still are two different
things.  I can't sit still, but I can pay attention (well, in some
classes)

 --Deviant


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