NODE d6b2eeeePublic vs. Private Munitions
Erle Greer <vagab0nd@sd.cybernex.net>Sun, 28 Jul 1996 05:18:48 +0800
Here's how I understand it:
The U.S. Government, concerned only with making America a safer place
for us taxpayers to live in, wants to regulate domestic encryption in order
to have access to the content of all transmissions. Their theory is that
any cryptosystem that is stronger than their cryptanalysis systems can be
used in illegal transmissions and should be considered munitions.
Theoretically, the government should only be have the resources to
control commercially-available, public encryption systems. Who is to stop
anyone from designing their own cryptosystem for personal use? If the
government intercepted a transmission from this private cryptosystem, and
could not decrypt it, would they assume that it must be considered
munitions? Similarly, anyone could send uniformly-formatted random garble
that could also be considered munitions, or at least waste the governments
processing time.
Why are we so worried about government regulation? Can't we just
devise our own cryptosystems and just don't sell them or make them publicly
available?
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NODE 223ffaa7Re: Public vs. Private Munitions
Jeremey Barrett <jeremey@forequest.com>Mon, 29 Jul 1996 03:35:05 +0800
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Hrm... that should foster communication. So lemme see if I understand your
point... everyone in the U.S needs to devise their own cryptosystem,
and then use it to communicate securely. To who? Since I can't publish
my system for fear the government will find it out and then restrict it,
noone else will know about it. I can have a good old time encrypting stuff
to myself, but that's about it. And the likelihood that I'm an expert
cryptographer in order to design a good system is pretty remote.
On Sat, 27 Jul 1996, Erle Greer wrote:
> Here's how I understand it:
> The U.S. Government, concerned only with making America a safer place
> for us taxpayers to live in, wants to regulate domestic encryption in order
> to have access to the content of all transmissions. Their theory is that
> any cryptosystem that is stronger than their cryptanalysis systems can be
> used in illegal transmissions and should be considered munitions.
> Theoretically, the government should only be have the resources to
> control commercially-available, public encryption systems. Who is to stop
> anyone from designing their own cryptosystem for personal use? If the
> government intercepted a transmission from this private cryptosystem, and
> could not decrypt it, would they assume that it must be considered
> munitions? Similarly, anyone could send uniformly-formatted random garble
> that could also be considered munitions, or at least waste the governments
> processing time.
> Why are we so worried about government regulation? Can't we just
> devise our own cryptosystems and just don't sell them or make them publicly
> available?
>
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Jeremey Barrett
Senior Software Engineer jeremey@forequest.com
The ForeQuest Company http://www.forequest.com/
"less is more."
-- Mies van de Rohe.
Ken Thompson has an automobile which he helped design. Unlike most
automobiles, it has neither speedometer, nor gas gage, nor any of the
numerous idiot lights which plague the modern driver. Rather, if the
driver makes any mistake, a giant "?" lights up in the center of the
dashboard. "The experienced driver", he says, "will usually know
what's wrong."
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NODE 874705b1Re: Public vs. Private Munitions
"Mark M." <markm@voicenet.com>Sun, 28 Jul 1996 10:16:44 +0800
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On Sat, 27 Jul 1996, Erle Greer wrote:
> Here's how I understand it:
> The U.S. Government, concerned only with making America a safer place
> for us taxpayers to live in, wants to regulate domestic encryption in order
> to have access to the content of all transmissions. Their theory is that
> any cryptosystem that is stronger than their cryptanalysis systems can be
> used in illegal transmissions and should be considered munitions.
> Theoretically, the government should only be have the resources to
> control commercially-available, public encryption systems. Who is to stop
> anyone from designing their own cryptosystem for personal use? If the
> government intercepted a transmission from this private cryptosystem, and
> could not decrypt it, would they assume that it must be considered
> munitions? Similarly, anyone could send uniformly-formatted random garble
> that could also be considered munitions, or at least waste the governments
> processing time.
> Why are we so worried about government regulation? Can't we just
> devise our own cryptosystems and just don't sell them or make them publicly
> available?
If encryption is regulated and outlawed, then Joe Sixpack won't have access to
any none Government Approved encryption algorithms. I may still have access
to strong crypto, but if it isn't widespread, I won't be able to use it very
effectively. As to your question about whether random data would be outlawed,
it certainly wouldn't surprise me. Of course, one could always apply for
permission to transmit random data that is not used to transmit encrypted
information from the government.
- -- Mark
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