NODE dd0a0760Re: "White 'Punks on Dope" (w apologies to The Tubes)
mike@fionn.lbl.gov (Michael Helm)Fri, 12 Jul 1996 10:02:38 +0800
On Jul 10, 10:12pm, Timothy C. May wrote:
> And perhaps worse, _parents_, such as the example I provided, are using it
[Ritalin]
> to control children. Where once they would've paddled the kid for using
> obscene language, or refusing to get dressed for school, now they pop a
> pill in the child's mouth.
There are certainly legitimate arguments about the level of use of
Ritalin or other drugs, their benefits & their costs, but this straw
man is just ridiculous, & betrays the author's lack of knowledge.
Unfortunately a similar misunderstanding is reflected in the writings
of 1 or 2 others on this topic too.
Parental (or other) control is not at issue at all with add; self
control is the main problem.
NODE fe4f92a3Re: "White 'Punks on Dope" (w apologies to The Tubes)
snow <snow@smoke.suba.com>Fri, 12 Jul 1996 18:41:23 +0800
On Thu, 11 Jul 1996, Michael Helm wrote:
> Ritalin or other drugs, their benefits & their costs, but this straw
> man is just ridiculous, & betrays the author's lack of knowledge.
> Unfortunately a similar misunderstanding is reflected in the writings
> of 1 or 2 others on this topic too.
> Parental (or other) control is not at issue at all with add; self
> control is the main problem.
No, the POINT IS MIS-DIAGNOSIS. Children who are either brighter
than their classmates and figured out the assignement with in minutes
of the teacher giving it, or children with _no_ boundries implemented
by their parents (people are like fractals, very subject to initial
conditions) hence they keep pushing and pushing so the parents respond
by instituting chemical control.
Most of the people who are arguing "against" ritilan ADMIT there
are (or might be) some cases where certain chemicals are the way to go,
but we feel that there are FAR to many cases out there.
Petro, Christopher C.
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