NODE c4db9cb8Re: [off-topic] roving wiretaps
Cerridwyn Llewyellyn <ceridwyn@wolfenet.com>Sat, 3 Aug 1996 10:27:57 +0800
At 11:58 AM 8/2/96 +0000, you wrote:
>>P.S. Do police really need a search warrant to wiretap cellular phones?
>
>It is my understanding that police need a warrant to tap *cellular*
>phones, but not *wireless* phones.
>
>One should understand that monitoring cellular traffic is *much* more
>difficult than tapping a conventional phone, because as the user
>moves around in the service area the phone switches to different
>repeaters, often several times during a conversation.
I'd have to disagree on that point. Monitoring cellular traffic requires
nothing more than a cellular phone, and some software which enables
you to follow calls through the cells, for a total cost of about $500.
This is exceptionally trivial with an Oki 900 and a ctek cable (which
interfaces the fone with the computer).
With this software you can monitor individual cells, choosing to "lock
on" to a call made from a specific number, or to a specific number. You
can follow calls, and record any dtmf digits. Also the caller will never
be made aware that he/she is being listened to.
A sophisticated land line wiretap that will not be detectable by the
average citizen will cost well over $500, plus you have to install it
without the target knowing, etc.
//cerridwyn//
NODE 0731b050Re: [off-topic] roving wiretaps
Roger Williams <roger@coelacanth.com>Sat, 3 Aug 1996 15:04:59 +0800
>>>>> Cerridwyn Llewyellyn <ceridwyn@wolfenet.com> writes:
>> One should understand that monitoring cellular traffic is *much*
>> more difficult than tapping a conventional phone...
> I'd have to disagree on that point. Monitoring cellular traffic
> requires nothing more than a cellular phone, and some software
> which enables you to follow calls through the cells, for a total
> cost of about $500...
Agreed. I know that this capability was available to organisations at
the level of the State Police over ten years ago, and has long been
available to anyone with a credit card and the ability to read the
adverts in the back of _Police Chief_ magazine...
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NODE 04665cf6Re: [off-topic] roving wiretaps
"Carlos L. Mariscal" <clopez@nayar.uan.mx>Sun, 4 Aug 1996 02:30:20 +0800
> >>>>> Cerridwyn Llewyellyn <ceridwyn@wolfenet.com> writes:
>
> >> One should understand that monitoring cellular traffic is *much*
> >> more difficult than tapping a conventional phone...
>
> > I'd have to disagree on that point. Monitoring cellular traffic
> > requires nothing more than a cellular phone, and some software
> > which enables you to follow calls through the cells, for a total
> > cost of about $500...
>
So, it is MUCH more difficult, or at least more expensive; anyone
can get a beige box for less than US $10, right? And clipping it onto
MaBell boxes takes less of a brain than programming or modifying a
scanner or a cellular phone. :)
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