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Re:PreRFD: comp.org.cypherpunks

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NODE 0b5e8183Re:PreRFD: comp.org.cypherpunks
qut@netcom.com (Skip) writes:
> The Subject: line says it all.
>
> My suggestion number #1:
>
> No moderation.

Suggestion 1 on how to diminish the feeble S/N ratio on cypherpunks:

        make it a newsgroup

Suggestion 2:

        make it an unmoderated newsgroup


I can think of nothing that would cause the remaining clue to flee faster
than a CP newsgroup in wide distribution (if it were gatewayed to the list)

jim
NODE a4250133Re: PreRFD: comp.org.cypherpunks
Jim McCoy wrote:
> qut@netcom.com (Skip) writes:
> > My suggestion number #1:
> > No moderation.
> 
> Suggestion 1 on how to diminish the feeble S/N ratio on cypherpunks:
> 
>         make it a newsgroup
> Suggestion 2:
>         make it an unmoderated newsgroup

How about making it a robomoderated newsgroup with only one enforced
rule, forbidding any crossposting?

	- Igor.
NODE 7e4df637Re: PreRFD: comp.org.cypherpunks
! Jim McCoy wrote:
! > qut@netcom.com (Skip) writes:
! > > My suggestion number #1:
! > > No moderation.
! > 
! > Suggestion 1 on how to diminish the feeble S/N ratio on cypherpunks:
! > 
! >         make it a newsgroup
! > Suggestion 2:
! >         make it an unmoderated newsgroup
! 
! How about making it a robomoderated newsgroup with only one enforced
! rule, forbidding any crossposting?

If moderation, then why not moderator(s) who simply send out cancel 
messages to everthing that is crossposted?  Traditional moderated 
newsgroups are technically inferior because all posts go through netnews 
chokepoints and then depends on the moderator(s) who's inevitable 
position has been the irresponsible one of keeping the position long 
after they lose interest with the high volumes.  Even if their was such
a person, there is still are chokepoint problem which is stupid to  
engage in.

In any case, creation of comp.org.cypherpunks in no way means gatewaying 
or shutting down cypherpunks@toad.com .


--
Love, 
Skip, OBC
NODE 8d23241cRe: PreRFD: comp.org.cypherpunks
qut@netcom.com (Skip, OBC) writes:

> ! Jim McCoy wrote:
> ! > qut@netcom.com (Skip) writes:
> ! > > My suggestion number #1:
> ! > > No moderation.
> ! > 
> ! > Suggestion 1 on how to diminish the feeble S/N ratio on cypherpunks:
> ! > 
> ! >         make it a newsgroup
> ! > Suggestion 2:
> ! >         make it an unmoderated newsgroup
> ! 
> ! How about making it a robomoderated newsgroup with only one enforced
> ! rule, forbidding any crossposting?
> 
> If moderation, then why not moderator(s) who simply send out cancel 
> messages to everthing that is crossposted?  Traditional moderated 
> newsgroups are technically inferior because all posts go through netnews 
> chokepoints and then depends on the moderator(s) who's inevitable 
> position has been the irresponsible one of keeping the position long 
> after they lose interest with the high volumes.  Even if their was such
> a person, there is still are chokepoint problem which is stupid to  
> engage in.
> 
> In any case, creation of comp.org.cypherpunks in no way means gatewaying 
> or shutting down cypherpunks@toad.com .

How about a NoCeM-moderated newsgroup?
I.e., several parties can issue 'hide' NoCeM notices for whatever
material they consider off-topic, including cross-posts. Several
other parties can issue 'highlight' NoCeM's for articles they
consider particularly worthy.

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Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM
Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps
NODE 05b1a1a5Re: PreRFD: comp.org.cypherpunks
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! qut@netcom.com (Skip, OBC) writes:
! 
! > ! Jim McCoy wrote:
! > ! > qut@netcom.com (Skip) writes:
! > ! > > My suggestion number #1:
! > ! > > No moderation.
! > ! > 
! > ! > Suggestion 1 on how to diminish the feeble S/N ratio on cypherpunks:
! > ! > 
! > ! >         make it a newsgroup
! > ! > Suggestion 2:
! > ! >         make it an unmoderated newsgroup
! > ! 
! > ! How about making it a robomoderated newsgroup with only one enforced
! > ! rule, forbidding any crossposting?
! > 
! > If moderation, then why not moderator(s) who simply send out cancel 
! > messages to everthing that is crossposted?  Traditional moderated 
! > newsgroups are technically inferior because all posts go through netnews 
! > chokepoints and then depends on the moderator(s) who's inevitable 
! > position has been the irresponsible one of keeping the position long 
! > after they lose interest with the high volumes.  Even if their was such
! > a person, there is still are chokepoint problem which is stupid to  
! > engage in.
! > 
! > In any case, creation of comp.org.cypherpunks in no way means gatewaying 
! > or shutting down cypherpunks@toad.com .
! 
! How about a NoCeM-moderated newsgroup?
! I.e., several parties can issue 'hide' NoCeM notices for whatever
! material they consider off-topic, including cross-posts. Several
! other parties can issue 'highlight' NoCeM's for articles they
! consider particularly worthy.

With the advent of killfiles and all sorts of filtering capabilities, 
there is no excuse for requiring moderation at all other than for 
purposes of censorship.

! ---
! 
! Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM
! Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps
!