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Re: fbi, crypto, and defcon

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NODE 6ca1fa56Re: fbi, crypto, and defcon
>At 8:50 8/2/96, Paul J. Bell wrote:
>An international phone call costs about 2 cents/min to produce. The average
>rate paid for by the consumer is 62 cents. That's means the carriers mark
>up this particular product by an amazing 3000%.
>
>Can you name another business that has comparable mark-ups?
The Medical Industry.
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NODE ee12db10Re: fbi, crypto, and defcon
At 2:06 AM -0400 8/4/96, anonymous-remailer@shell.portal.com wrote:
> You guys are confused.  The actual telephone call may cost only 2
> cents/min, but the accounting and billing procedures are way more
> expensive.  As long as they are doing any kind of usage-based
> charging, that actual act of charging will continue to cost
> considerably more than the data transmission.

Ah. So, why settle the transactions for digital cash and skip all that
overhead? Yet another application for micromoney.

It seems to me that I've been arguing -- for two years now -- that digital
bearer certificate settlement will prove to be *much* cheaper than
book-entry settlement, and here the answer's been looking at us, straight
in the face, all this time.

Anybody have any ideas how to go about measuring the savings between
accumulating, storing, and processing call-billing data and simply paying
for them  before/during/after the call with digital cash?

I hear this strange rumbling underground. Hey, isn't that "Dad" Joiner?

Cheers,
Bob Hettinga

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NODE 3c800156Re: fbi, crypto, and defcon
> >At 8:50 8/2/96, Paul J. Bell wrote:
> >An international phone call costs about 2 cents/min to produce. The average
> >rate paid for by the consumer is 62 cents. That's means the carriers mark
> >up this particular product by an amazing 3000%.
> >
> >Can you name another business that has comparable mark-ups?
> The Medical Industry.
> PGP encrypted mail preferred.  
> E-Mail me for my key.
> Scott J. Schryvers <schryver@radiks.net>

You guys are confused.  The actual telephone call may cost only 2
cents/min, but the accounting and billing procedures are way more
expensive.  As long as they are doing any kind of usage-based
charging, that actual act of charging will continue to cost
considerably more than the data transmission.

Why do you think sending long-distance IP packets is basically free?

- Tom