NODE 474bd9d2Re: Hackers invade DOJ web site
Frank Stuart <fstuart@vetmed.auburn.edu>Sun, 18 Aug 1996 19:57:18 +0800
>CNN online (http://www.cnn.com) is reporting a "breakin" by "hackers"
>to the DOJ web site. They don't elaborate exactly how thy did it.
I certainly don't support the person or people responsible for this and it may
very well end up having an overall negative impact. Since it has happened,
however, I think those in a position to do so should start with the spin
control. Some suggestions:
The fact that even the U.S. Justice Department is unable to adequately
protect it's own site from intruders underscores the need for widely-
available strong encryption.
While this is certainly a major embarrassment for the Justice Department,
at least the mandatory "key escrow" program the Clinton administration is
insisting upon has not yet been implemented; no private citizens' data
appears to have been compromised this time.
It's doubtful that a new law or government bureaucracy would have prevented
this from happening but it's entirely possible that tools such as strong
encryption could have. It's ironic that the U.S. Government is focusing on
the former while fighting use of the latter.
This event could potentially draw a lot of interest from the general public.
Since we're dealing with public perceptions largely created through the main-
stream media, it's important to remember that "sound bites" are more important
than carefully reasoned arguments.
| (Douglas) Hofstadter's Law:
| It always takes longer than you expect, even
Frank Stuart | when you take into account Hofstadter's Law.
NODE f296820dRe: Hackers invade DOJ web site
Will Day <willday@rom.oit.gatech.edu>Wed, 21 Aug 1996 04:01:51 +0800
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A short time ago, at a computer terminal far, far away, Frank Stuart wrote:
>however, I think those in a position to do so should start with the spin
>control. Some suggestions:
>
> The fact that even the U.S. Justice Department is unable to adequately
> protect it's own site from intruders underscores the need for widely-
> available strong encryption.
>
> While this is certainly a major embarrassment for the Justice Department,
> at least the mandatory "key escrow" program the Clinton administration is
> insisting upon has not yet been implemented; no private citizens' data
> appears to have been compromised this time.
>
> It's doubtful that a new law or government bureaucracy would have prevented
> this from happening but it's entirely possible that tools such as strong
> encryption could have. It's ironic that the U.S. Government is focusing on
> the former while fighting use of the latter.
I understand how it affects their claim for the security of escrowed
keys, but I'm afraid I don't follow the other argument. How would the
wide availability of strong encryption have helped prevent the breakin?
How would encryption in general prevent breakins? I'd love to use this
as an argument for strong encryption, but I don't see how it really
applies.
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NODE 9bf1abd1Re: Hackers invade DOJ web site
Vipul Ved Prakash <vipul@pobox.com>Wed, 21 Aug 1996 09:21:55 +0800
> A short time ago, at a computer terminal far, far away, Frank Stuart wrote:
> >however, I think those in a position to do so should start with the spin
> >control. Some suggestions:
> >
> > The fact that even the U.S. Justice Department is unable to adequately
> > protect it's own site from intruders underscores the need for widely-
> > available strong encryption.
> >
> > While this is certainly a major embarrassment for the Justice Department,
> > at least the mandatory "key escrow" program the Clinton administration is
> > insisting upon has not yet been implemented; no private citizens' data
> > appears to have been compromised this time.
> >
> > It's doubtful that a new law or government bureaucracy would have prevented
> > this from happening but it's entirely possible that tools such as strong
> > encryption could have. It's ironic that the U.S. Government is focusing on
> > the former while fighting use of the latter.
>
> I understand how it affects their claim for the security of escrowed
> keys, but I'm afraid I don't follow the other argument. How would the
> wide availability of strong encryption have helped prevent the breakin?
> How would encryption in general prevent breakins? I'd love to use this
> as an argument for strong encryption, but I don't see how it really
> applies.
I think its a DOJ's doing. They prolly want to show the courts how
bad hackers can get so they can conjure up some support in forthcomming
trials. C'mon the sysadmins aren't fools, they surely see their own site.
- Vipul
vipul@pobox.com