NODE 4f490223United States as Northern Ireland
tcmay@got.net (Timothy C. May)Tue, 6 Aug 1996 11:36:30 +0800
At 9:16 PM 8/5/96, hallam@Etna.ai.mit.edu wrote:
>If you think the wiretap bill is bad think on this, all guns
>of all types banned except where held by special license.
>Checkpoints at major road intersections. Stop and search
>patrols in city centers and the army on the street. Its not
>at all far fetched, the UKgovt took less than a year to
>introduce such measures in Northern Ireland. Constitution or
>not, don't expect that the US Congress won't make a similar
>response.
Yes, I agree.
Welcome to our side, Phill!
--Tim May
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NODE 742dc853view from Australia (Re: United States as Northern Ireland)
Bob Smart <smart@mel.dit.csiro.au>Tue, 6 Aug 1996 14:11:56 +0800
In Australia the gun lobby are now deeply distrusted. During the
current crackdown on high powered and repeating weapons they have made
many statements, at all levels of their movement, that indicate that
they want the guns in order to kill people and to give themselves the
option of insurrection. Unlike the US this is not an activity that is
supported by the constitution and the people are strongly against it.
If we assume that the gun lobby will lose, [please I am not discussing
whether it *should* lose and I'm not interested in arguments on this
so send them to the list not to me], then supporters of privacy and
freedom through cryptography do the cause a great disservice by
associating themselves with the gun lobby.
In fact we are passing up a great chance to sell the cause of
communication freedom through cryptography by arguing:
Communication privacy through cryptographic technology is a
necessary counter-balance to the inevitable increase in state
control of public spaces [in an age when weapons technology
permits weapons that can kill large numbers of people to be
easily concealed].
Secure electronic communication is the freedom that carries no
direct risk to other people. It is the one that must be preserved
in a free society.
The 1990s is the decade of the bloodless revolution built on
the freedom of communication. Preserving free communication is
the vital step in countering out-of-control governments and criminal
organizations, and cryptography is the way to keep communication
free.
I don't think this line of argument will appeal to cypherpunks but
if there are other organizations running this line I'd be keen to
support them.
Bob Smart