Re: Husband/Wife jailed for saying Clinton Sucks

At 6:47 PM 8/21/96, Brian Davis wrote:
>On Tue, 20 Aug 1996 Scottauge@aol.com wrote:
>
>> Rush Limbaugh reports:
>>
>> That a husband and wife are being jailed for yelling to Clinton "You Suck".
>>
>> The Secret Service states additional words (yet un-uttered to the rest of us)
>> were mentioned that they deemed threatening.
>
>
>"I hope you die."  And the couple was arrestd for disorderly conduct by
>Chicago police.  Any possible federal charges for threatening a president
>in violation of 18 U.S.C. Section 871 await a determination of the
>seriousness of the statement, in context with the wife's conduct, by
>prosecutors.  I predict no action.

Well, I agree that saying "I hope you die" is a tad bit more serious than
"You suck, and those boys died."

If these additional words were spoken, why didn't the SS reveal them early
on? (Or, if they did, why did the news reports not mention them?)

Personally, I would never utter such words, even to Clinton. Or Dole.
Tacky, even if one dislikes the Prez.

But I agree that "no action" is pretty likely. "I hope you die" has been a
time-honored insult at least since I was a kindergartner, and presumably
for many decades prior to this. Hardly an active threat.

--Tim May

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On Wed, 21 Aug 1996, Timothy C. May wrote:

> But I agree that "no action" is pretty likely. "I hope you die" has been a
> time-honored insult at least since I was a kindergartner, and presumably
> for many decades prior to this. Hardly an active threat.

Yeah, well it's pretty lame as far as threats go, two key words there are 
"hope" and "die," what's missing is a time frame and intent of action.  
Everyone after all does day, that hope isn't hopeless, but it's not a 
threat either.

Silly assed our president, but then again what else can he do to prove 
himself a jerk.  As for me, I don't hope he dies, he will after all after 
many years, die of old age.  No, I hope he doesn't get elected.  That's 
what I hope. :^)  Not that I'd want Dole either. :(

How about you Tim, when are you running for prez?  Heheheh!

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On Thu, 22 Aug 1996, Ray Arachelian wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Aug 1996, Timothy C. May wrote:
> > But I agree that "no action" is pretty likely. "I hope you die" has been a
> > time-honored insult at least since I was a kindergartner, and presumably
> > for many decades prior to this. Hardly an active threat.
> many years, die of old age.  No, I hope he doesn't get elected.  That's 
> what I hope. :^)  Not that I'd want Dole either. :(
> 
> How about you Tim, when are you running for prez?  Heheheh!

     I think it's a good idea. Tim May for President, Jim Bell for Vice. 
That'll keep Tim in line...

Petro, Christopher C.
petro@suba.com <prefered for any non-list stuff>
snow@smoke.suba.com

On Wed, 21 Aug 1996, Timothy C. May wrote:

> At 6:47 PM 8/21/96, Brian Davis wrote:
> >On Tue, 20 Aug 1996 Scottauge@aol.com wrote:
> >
> >> Rush Limbaugh reports:
     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[...]
> Well, I agree that saying "I hope you die" is a tad bit more serious than
> "You suck, and those boys died."
> 
> If these additional words were spoken, why didn't the SS reveal them early
> on? (Or, if they did, why did the news reports not mention them?)

"News Reports"? Jesus.

-rich