NODE cb7703c3Re: [NOISE]CIA Contra Crack and LA Gangs (fwd)
Jim Ray <liberty@gate.net>Wed, 21 Aug 1996 14:04:03 +0800
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OK, Rich cites a loon, but the fact is that Southern Air Transport
right here in Miami was in there early in the contraarms-coke
trade. You don't make the real money in any transport business
unless you can have full loads both ways. Also, the skills needed
to land an overloaded airplane on an unimproved strip are different
than those held by typical pilots, even very good, carrier-rated
military pilots. Drugsmugglers had 'em, nobody else did, the CIA
needed pilots with the skills to have their filthy little war. You
can search the "major papers" libraries of West & Lexis for:
"mena /p cocaine" and find all kinds of stuff. You can look into
the case of John Hall's ranch in Costa Rica and find all kinds of
stuff, too. The best experiment I've run across is to ask anyone
(especially anyone under 30, for some reason) the following:
"Do you think those planes came back empty?" When I do this, _I_
don't have to say the word "cocaine," they say it for me. Every
time. It is a major, bipartisan, Watergate-style but bigger
scandal, and the strange bedfellows in the media who were doing a
halfway decent job of covering it [The Wall Street Journal and
"High Times" magazine(!)] have fallen strangely silent on the
subject as the election approaches. Hmmmmm.
JMR
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NODE e0b6152cRe: [NOISE]CIA Contra Crack and LA Gangs (fwd)
Rich Graves <llurch@networking.stanford.edu>Wed, 21 Aug 1996 18:11:44 +0800
On Tue, 20 Aug 1996, Jim Ray wrote:
> OK, Rich cites a loon, but the fact is that Southern Air Transport
> right here in Miami was in there early in the contraarms-coke
> trade.
Oh, I don't think it's impossible or even unlikely that at least some of the
groups lumped together as "contras" were involved in drug smuggling, and I
think it's reasonable to have different views regarding how much money was
involved and who knew what when (my view is very little, and medium). What I
object to are conspiracy theories along the lines of:
1. The Reagan Administration used the Contras to smuggle crack to the US in
a deliberate attempt at genocide against Black people. (I heard this a
lot, though seldom in so many words, on KPFK in the mid-80's; the SJ Merc
series certainly has this as a subtext.)
2. Clinton was a CIA agent involved in the Contra drug-smuggling CaBaL. He
was involved in anti-war protests only as a CIA informant. (This is the
suggestion of the Morris book.)
3. Anything involving the Kennedy assassination, Donna Rice, or Elvis.
> It is a major, bipartisan, Watergate-style but bigger
> scandal, and the strange bedfellows in the media who were doing a
> halfway decent job of covering it [The Wall Street Journal and
> "High Times" magazine(!)] have fallen strangely silent on the
> subject as the election approaches. Hmmmmm.
4. Anything where vague unsupported asserions are thrown out, followed by
a Hmmmmm (sorry).
-rich