Re: Oregon License Plate Site in the News Tonight!

At 12:26 AM 8/9/96 -0700, David Wagner wrote:

>I say, what we need is a little more abuse.  I say, a well-publicized
>incident of abuse of the driver's license database can do more to
>help the cause of privacy than any amount of intellectually compelling
>debate.  Perhaps one horrible incident of abuse would ignite enough
>public backlash to stop states from selling their databases at the
>drop of a hat.

The murder of the actress Rebecca Schaefer (sp?) by an obsessed fan (who
paid a private detective to get her address from the California DMV) did
cause California to somewhat restrict license and registration information.
I think they eased up though later.  I don't know who can get info there
these days.

This particular problem can be avoided privately by reporting a mail drop
rather than your real address to the state.

DCF

Duncan:

On Fri, 9 Aug 1996, Duncan Frissell wrote:

> cause California to somewhat restrict license and registration information.
> I think they eased up though later.  I don't know who can get info there

	You have to register as a company with CA DMV.  Pay them an
	annual fee, and a per report pulled fee, and only pull 
	records for a _legitimate business need._  

	Addresses are only provided if a court case the target 
	of the search is listed as being involved in.  Docket #
	must be listed -- which gives rise to some interesting 
	problems.

> This particular problem can be avoided privately by reporting a mail drop
> rather than your real address to the state.

	Depends upon the state.   In some states it is a misdemeanor
	to list anything other than your physical address.  Others
	don't care what you list, so long as mail can be delivered
	there.  

	More important is ensuring that all the addresses that the 
	state has on you are the same.  The preference seems to be 
	to have the same address as is on one's checks.  

	What I've noted some people do, is give their physical address,
	and provide a mail address as well.  Then the individuals move, 
	and omit to notify the state of the move.  When questioned about
	it, their usual response is something along the lines of "
	I get all of my mail at my mail box. I did not 
	realize that I had to file a change of address form, with you.
	After 
	all the address on my licence is the address where I get my
	mail.  [  In most states the mail address is the address listed
	when two addresses are provided. ] "

        xan

        jonathon
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C'punks,

On Fri, 9 Aug 1996, jonathon wrote:

> In some states it is a misdemeanor to list anything other than
> your physical address. 

I believe that in California, you may have a PO Box on your 
driver's license, but the state has to have your "real" address
in its records.  As noted, some people forget to update this 
information when they move, and others list their lawyer's 
address with the state.  Presumably, that should satisfy the 
legal justifications for requiring an address.

> 	More important is ensuring that all the addresses that the 
> 	state has on you are the same.  The preference seems to be 
> 	to have the same address as is on one's checks.  

That may be the preference, but I just use my e-mail address on
my checks.  If more is required to cut a deal, I can choose to
add more information by hand if I am willing to do so to do the
transaction.
 

 S a n d y

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