Indonesia detains democracy activist after post to mailing list (fwd)

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> Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 07:05:33 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Declan McCullagh <declan@eff.org>
> To: cypherpunks@toad.com
> Subject: Indonesia detains democracy activist after post to mailing list


>    HotWired, The Netizen
>    19 August 1996
> 
>    Trouble in Paradise
>    by Declan McCullagh (declan@well.com)
>    Washington, DC, 18 August
>    
>    Indonesian democracy activists have taken their fight for freedom
>    to the Net, and the government doesn't approve.
>    
>    After distributing email messages about riots in Jakarta last month to
>    an international Indonesian-politics mailing list, Prihadi Beny
>    Waluyo, a lecturer at Duta Wacana Christian University, was arrested
>    and interrogated by the military. Since then, the mailing list has
>    been banned from the country and Waluyo has returned to his house,
>    where he remains under surveillance.
>    

[dan lain-lain...]

Exactly which mailing list was "banned from the country"? All the
Indonesian mailing lists I'm on, including apakabar@clark.net, are
functioning normally, with no unusual complaints or interruptions.

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On Mon, 19 Aug 1996, Charles Gimon wrote:
[...]
> >    Trouble in Paradise
> >    by Declan McCullagh (declan@well.com)
> >    Washington, DC, 18 August
> >    
> >    Indonesian democracy activists have taken their fight for freedom
> >    to the Net, and the government doesn't approve.
> >    
> >    After distributing email messages about riots in Jakarta last month to
> >    an international Indonesian-politics mailing list, Prihadi Beny
> >    Waluyo, a lecturer at Duta Wacana Christian University, was arrested
> >    and interrogated by the military. Since then, the mailing list has
> >    been banned from the country and Waluyo has returned to his house,
> >    where he remains under surveillance.
> 
> [dan lain-lain...]
> 
> Exactly which mailing list was "banned from the country"? All the
> Indonesian mailing lists I'm on, including apakabar@clark.net, are
> functioning normally, with no unusual complaints or interruptions.

Never mind the details. What's important is that this is yet another example
of net censorship, like the Berkeley administration's reading student email
and the FBI's monitoring and disrupting patriot email. 

It's really sad, the difference between HRW/AI and Wired. You know, Amnesty
has some outstanding policies regarding accuracy, objectivity, and
universality. That's why they're accorded such respect. Human Rights Watch,
which has only been around since the late 70's and committed a few major
faux pas in Central America, is still learning. Wired decided that it had
all the answers years ago.

- -rich

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On Mon, 19 Aug 1996, Rich Graves wrote:

> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> 
> On Mon, 19 Aug 1996, Charles Gimon wrote:
> [...]
> > >    Trouble in Paradise
> > >    by Declan McCullagh (declan@well.com)
> > >    Washington, DC, 18 August
> > >    
> > >    Indonesian democracy activists have taken their fight for freedom
> > >    to the Net, and the government doesn't approve.
> > >    
> > >    After distributing email messages about riots in Jakarta last month to
> > >    an international Indonesian-politics mailing list, Prihadi Beny
> > >    Waluyo, a lecturer at Duta Wacana Christian University, was arrested
> > >    and interrogated by the military. Since then, the mailing list has
> > >    been banned from the country and Waluyo has returned to his house,
> > >    where he remains under surveillance.
> > 
> > [dan lain-lain...]
> > 
> > Exactly which mailing list was "banned from the country"? All the
> > Indonesian mailing lists I'm on, including apakabar@clark.net, are
> > functioning normally, with no unusual complaints or interruptions.
> 
> Never mind the details. What's important is that this is yet another example
> of net censorship, like the Berkeley administration's reading student email
> and the FBI's monitoring and disrupting patriot email. 
> 
> It's really sad, the difference between HRW/AI and Wired. You know, Amnesty
> has some outstanding policies regarding accuracy, objectivity, and
> universality. That's why they're accorded such respect. Human Rights Watch,
> which has only been around since the late 70's and committed a few major
> faux pas in Central America, is still learning. Wired decided that it had
> all the answers years ago.


Rich is frothing again. Time to killfile him again. Note he contributes
nothing of substance except a vapid anti-Wired rant that has been done
better elsewhere, like www.howtired.com. (Personally, I don't even read
Wired much anymore. To each his own.)

As for UCB and the FBI threads, Rich is talking about back
fight-censorship discussions. He seems to think that I endorse every
message I forward to a mailing list. He is incorrect. (Rather, I offer the
information to the list, as Judge Sloviter took Olsen's testimony, "for
what it's worth.")

Back to Indonesia -- my column should have said the Indonesian military is
*trying* to ban the mailing list from the country. They haven't succeeded
yet. Time will tell.

I have more information on Indonesia at http://www2.eff.org/~declan/global/ -- 
right now, use the www2 address since not all directories seem to be 
updating on the mirror servers properly right now.

-Declan



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