NODE 8b7c9757Re: Singapore Global Action Alert (8/29/96)
frantz@netcom.com (Bill Frantz)Fri, 30 Aug 1996 10:26:20 +0800
At 5:21 PM 8/29/96 -0500, Jean-Francois Avon wrote:
>I am fed up of seing net users giving every would-be dictator the
>benefit of the doubt. There is no tolerance to be applied to that.
>There is no such thing as being tolerent to poison.
I don't think this is giving Singapore's rulers the benefit of the doubt.
Rather, it is a case of asking politely the first time. Since it is asking
him to change a policy of his, it is merely avoiding calling him a shithead
in the process. When you want someone to do something voluntarily, it is
usually better to start by being polite.
It is up to other net-forces to make sure that censorship is ineffective
for technical reasons.
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NODE fd5de452Re: Singapore Global Action Alert (8/29/96)
Declan McCullagh <declan@eff.org>Fri, 30 Aug 1996 15:03:40 +0800
Bill speaks sooth. Personally, I agree with Jean-Francois in that the
Singapore government *does* understand the Net, and is using that
knowledge to control it within their borders reasonably well. Remember the
next phase of restrictions goes into effect on September 15.
But I don't see a problem in being polite the first time.
-Declan
On Thu, 29 Aug 1996, Bill Frantz wrote:
> At 5:21 PM 8/29/96 -0500, Jean-Francois Avon wrote:
> >I am fed up of seing net users giving every would-be dictator the
> >benefit of the doubt. There is no tolerance to be applied to that.
> >There is no such thing as being tolerent to poison.
>
> I don't think this is giving Singapore's rulers the benefit of the doubt.
> Rather, it is a case of asking politely the first time. Since it is asking
> him to change a policy of his, it is merely avoiding calling him a shithead
> in the process. When you want someone to do something voluntarily, it is
> usually better to start by being polite.
>
> It is up to other net-forces to make sure that censorship is ineffective
> for technical reasons.
>
>
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> Bill Frantz | Cave ab homine unius libri | Periwinkle -- Consulting
> (408)356-8506 | [Beware the man of one | 16345 Englewood Ave.
> frantz@netcom.com | book] - Anonymous Latin | Los Gatos, CA 95032, USA
>
>
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