NODE 10eb26e5Re: Anonymity (re: the Esther Dyson issue)
stewarts@ix.netcom.comThu, 5 Sep 1996 08:04:30 +0800
In Tim's Cyphernomicon, he says
- I have heard (no cites) that "going masked for the purpose
of going masked" is illegal in many jurisdictions. Hard to
believe, as many other disguises are just as effective and
are presumably not outlawed (wigs, mustaches, makeup,
etc.). I assume the law has to do with people wearning ski
masks and such in "inappropriate" places. Bad law, if real.
A lot of the motivation was to stop the Ku Klux Klan terrorism.
On the other hand, the reason it was mentioned on the list a couple
years ago was that a woman was arrested in some North Central city,
probably Detroit, for violating it, because she was wearing a
Middle-Eastern-style chador outfit that covered her face.
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NODE 305fcbf3Re: Anonymity (re: the Esther Dyson issue)
Kevin L Prigge <Kevin.L.Prigge-2@tc.umn.edu>Fri, 6 Sep 1996 17:37:01 +0800
stewarts@IX.NETCOM.COM said:
> In Tim's Cyphernomicon, he says
> - I have heard (no cites) that "going masked for the purpose
> of going masked" is illegal in many jurisdictions. Hard to
> believe, as many other disguises are just as effective and
> are presumably not outlawed (wigs, mustaches, makeup,
> etc.). I assume the law has to do with people wearning ski
> masks and such in "inappropriate" places. Bad law, if real.
>
> A lot of the motivation was to stop the Ku Klux Klan terrorism.
> On the other hand, the reason it was mentioned on the list a couple
> years ago was that a woman was arrested in some North Central city,
> probably Detroit, for violating it, because she was wearing a
> Middle-Eastern-style chador outfit that covered her face.
>
That would be St Paul, MN. If I recall, the arrest was thrown out
(and possibly the law overturned).
I can look for references if anyone cares.
--
Kevin L. Prigge | "I rarely saw people sitting at
Systems Software Programmer | computers producing real code
Internet Enterprise - OIT | wearing ties." - Philippe Kahn
University of Minnesota | (speech at Software Development '90)
NODE 7706bea6Digital Telephony and the Net
Declan McCullagh <declan@eff.org>Thu, 5 Sep 1996 13:49:50 +0800
It's late and I'm about to go home, but my search through the text of the
Digital Telephony legislation comes up with the attached definitions the
law uses.
If I were, say, Jason "The Weasel" Baron (who's my fave DoJ attorney) and
I wanted to really screw over some netizens, I might try to argue that an
ISP should be a "telecommunications carrier." If the FCC bought my
argument and thought that an ISP could in some cases substantially replace
telephone service, then DT would apply to ISPs.
Then ISPs must -- at the request of "authorized" Feds acting even without
a warrant -- cough up all data coming to and from a person on their system.
I'm probably wrong here and I hope I am, so I'm copying this to Marc who
can point out the holes in my reasoning.
-Declan
// declan@eff.org // I do not represent the EFF // declan@well.com //
(4) The term `electronic messaging services' means
software-based services that enable the sharing of data,
images, sound, writing, or other information among computing
devices controlled by the senders or recipients of the messages.
(6) The term `information services'--
(A) means the offering of a capability for generating,
acquiring, storing, transforming, processing, retrieving,
utilizing, or making available information via
telecommunications; and
(B) includes--
(i) a service that permits a customer to retrieve
stored information from, or file information for
storage in, information storage facilities;
(ii) electronic publishing; and
(iii) electronic messaging services; but
(8) The term `telecommunications carrier'-- [...]
(ii) a person or entity engaged in providing wire or
electronic communication switching or transmission
service to the extent that the Commission finds that
such service is a replacement for a substantial portion
of the local telephone exchange service and that it is
in the public interest to deem such a person or entity
to be a telecommunications carrier for purposes of this
title; but
(C) does not include--
(i) persons or entities insofar as they are engaged
in providing information services; and
(ii) any class or category of telecommunications
carriers that the Commission exempts by rule after
consultation with the Attorney General.
SEC. 103. ASSISTANCE CAPABILITY REQUIREMENTS.
(a) Capability Requirements: Except as provided in subsections
(b), (c), and (d) of this section and sections 108(a) and 109(b)
and (d), a telecommunications carrier shall ensure that its
equipment, facilities, or services that provide a customer or
subscriber with the ability to originate, terminate, or direct
communications are capable of--
(1) expeditiously isolating and enabling the government,
pursuant to a court order or other lawful authorization, to
intercept, to the exclusion of any other communications, all
wire and electronic communications carried by the carrier
within a service area to or from equipment, facilities, or
services of a subscriber of such carrier concurrently with
their transmission to or from the subscriber's equipment,
facility, or service, or at such later time as may be
acceptable to the government;