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Taking crypto out of the U.S.

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NODE 3532d767Taking crypto out of the U.S.
Soon I am going to be going overseas to Japan, and I want to take
my notebook with me so I can keep up with everything, however, I have
encrypted my hard drive and usually encrypt my mail.  Is this in violation
of the ITAR to keep everything the same when I go over?
NODE 1743d9e7Re: Taking crypto out of the U.S.
Theres a personal use exemption.  Michael Froomkin's web page has a
pointer to it.

Adam

Hamish wrote:

|         Soon I am going to be going overseas to Japan, and I want to take
| my notebook with me so I can keep up with everything, however, I have
| encrypted my hard drive and usually encrypt my mail.  Is this in violation
| of the ITAR to keep everything the same when I go over?
| 
| 


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NODE f6905b5dRe: Taking crypto out of the U.S.
On Mon, 23 Sep 1996, Hamish wrote:

> Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 18:18:15 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Hamish <haggis@brutus.bright.net>
> To: cypherpunks@toad.com
> Subject: Taking crypto out of the U.S.
> 
>         Soon I am going to be going overseas to Japan, and I want to take
> my notebook with me so I can keep up with everything, however, I have
> encrypted my hard drive and usually encrypt my mail.  Is this in violation
> of the ITAR to keep everything the same when I go over?
> 
> 
> 

Not if nobody else is allowed to use i (but some theif could cause you to
violate ITAR ;)... the real question is: do they have 120 VAC plugs in
Japan? ... 

 --Deviant
Slowly and surely the unix crept up on the Nintendo user ...
NODE b788e60fRe: Taking crypto out of the U.S.
On Mon, 23 Sep 1996, Hamish wrote:

>         Soon I am going to be going overseas to Japan, and I want to take
> my notebook with me so I can keep up with everything, however, I have
> encrypted my hard drive and usually encrypt my mail.  Is this in violation
> of the ITAR to keep everything the same when I go over?
> 

I'm not rendering a legal opinion here, but I will try to make your
position clear.

1>  It depends
2>  It depends
3>  It depends.

First, what encryption type is it?  Some encryption is freely exportable.

Second, is it just encrypted data you're exporting, or also the means to
encrypt/decrypt it.  (It's not clear from your post)

Third, do you plan on telling anyone what's on your drive?


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NODE 8e81263dRe: Taking crypto out of the U.S.
Hamish wrote:
> Soon I am going to be going overseas to Japan, and I want to take
> my notebook with me so I can keep up with everything, however, I have
> encrypted my hard drive and usually encrypt my mail.  Is this in
> violation of the ITAR to keep everything the same when I go over?

Bad enough now that many places require you to put your laptop computer 
through the big gray x-ray machine (no exceptions in some places, 
especially federal buildings in the U.S.), but if they start requiring 
you to list individual files (?????).