NODE 3944588bRe: Los Angeles Times article on Helsingius and anon.penet.fi
edyson@edventure.com (Esther Dyson)Tue, 3 Sep 1996 02:39:37 +0800
At least you don't accuse me of being a Communist. For the record, I am not
a tool of the CIA nor have they pressured me, but there's no reason for you
to believe me.
Esther Dyson
At 08:23 PM 9/2/96 +1000, Julian Assange wrote:
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>
>Examining in detail Dyson's interests it appears she maintains a
>sizeable and long-standing interest in Eastern European technology
>companies. She is also clearly very far to the right of the political
>spectrum (rampant capitalist would be putting it mildly). She also speaks
>Russian. I'm not saying she has been working for the CIA for the past
>decade, but I would be very surprised if the CIA has not exerted quite
>significant pressure (which they are easily able to do given the
>location of many of Dyson's assets) in order to bring her into their
>folds during that time period.
>
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> torment us for own good will torment us without end, for they do so with
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NODE 4da5772eRe: Los Angeles Times article on Helsingius and anon.penet.fi
Black Unicorn <unicorn@schloss.li>Tue, 3 Sep 1996 06:59:38 +0800
On Mon, 2 Sep 1996, Esther Dyson wrote:
> At least you don't accuse me of being a Communist.
Without commenting on the question of intelligence agencies, far left and
far right on this issue are fairly non-distinct.
> Esther Dyson Always make new mistakes!
> EDventure Holdings
> <edyson@edventure.com>
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NODE f27c56ccRe: Los Angeles Times article on Helsingius and anon.penet.fi
Stanton McCandlish <mech@eff.org>Tue, 3 Sep 1996 15:35:14 +0800
Also questionably relevant for an issue like this (more relevant perhaps
to intellectual property issues, etc.) The political axis most relevant
here is civil libertarian v. authoritarian. I don't think you'll find
any authoritarians on the EFF board or staff.
Black Unicorn typed:
>
> On Mon, 2 Sep 1996, Esther Dyson wrote:
>
> > At least you don't accuse me of being a Communist.
>
> Without commenting on the question of intelligence agencies, far left and
> far right on this issue are fairly non-distinct.
>
> > Esther Dyson Always make new mistakes!
> > EDventure Holdings
> > <edyson@edventure.com>
>
> --
> I hate lightning - finger for public key - Vote Monarchist
> unicorn@schloss.li
>
>
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