Re: Hallam-Baker demands more repudiations or he'll write!

On 25 Sep 96 at 5:59, Brian Davis wrote:

> I disagree that that will be the response, but you should be willing
> to allow one group of people to fight fire with fire.

But generally, it has been found a much better solution to fight fire
with water, and this is why I am not convinced of the ideological 
effectiveness of AP, although I don't doubt it's operationnal 
effectiveness at all.

I will take that sentence only slightly out-of-(specific)-context and
make a still pertinent remark about it:
  	
	This is *exactly* what Jim Bell, because of his opinions,
	envision to do with the AP system.


I find that absolutely hilarious!

jfa

Please reply by e-mail since I am not on Cypherpunks anymore.

On Wed, 25 Sep 1996, Jean-Francois Avon wrote:

> On 25 Sep 96 at 5:59, Brian Davis wrote:
> 
> > I disagree that that will be the response, but you should be willing
> > to allow one group of people to fight fire with fire.
> 
> But generally, it has been found a much better solution to fight fire
> with water, and this is why I am not convinced of the ideological 
> effectiveness of AP, although I don't doubt it's operationnal 
> effectiveness at all.


If by "operation effectiveness" you mean some people will be killed, I 
agree.  I also agree with the fire/water comment (maybe in more ways than 
one!); my comment related to my belief that AP-supporters shouldn't 
complain about especially draconian measures taken against them by 
governments, given their modus operandi.

EBD

> 
> I will take that sentence only slightly out-of-(specific)-context and
> make a still pertinent remark about it:
>   	
> 	This is *exactly* what Jim Bell, because of his opinions,
> 	envision to do with the AP system.
> 
> 
> I find that absolutely hilarious!
> 
> jfa
> 
> Please reply by e-mail since I am not on Cypherpunks anymore.
>

> On 25 Sep 96 at 5:59, Brian Davis wrote:
> > I disagree that that will be the response, but you should be willing
> > to allow one group of people to fight fire with fire.
> But generally, it has been found a much better solution to fight fire
> with water, and this is why I am not convinced of the ideological 
> effectiveness of AP, although I don't doubt it's operationnal 
> effectiveness at all.
 
     Having been a firefighter for about 4 years, I can say that for 
small fires water works quite a bit better. For larger fires (over a
hundred acres or so) setting a backfire, or burning out the fuel in the
direction the fire is probably going to go is a hell of a lot easier than
hauling millons and millions of gallons or blood^h^h^h^h^h water.

Petro, Christopher C.
petro@suba.com <prefered for any non-list stuff>
snow@smoke.suba.com

"Jean-Francois Avon" <jf_avon@citenet.net> writes:
> Please reply by e-mail since I am not on Cypherpunks anymore.

Good riddance. That's the kind of subscribers this list needs to lose,
rather than the technical people.

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