Re: China joins Singapore, Germany, ....

At 04:41 AM 9/9/96 -0700, Timothy C. May wrote:

>Prison sentences in Germany for those who reveal forbidden information
>about "the Holocaust," 

In a country where you get 10 months for stabbing a famous tennis star in
the back, prison isn't much of a penalty. 

>prison terms (or worse) for dissidents in Burma,
>China, and, of course, various other nations and "democratic people's
>republics."
>
>Even here in the United States, connecting to an illegal site may mean
>imprisonment. (The charge: trafficking in child pornography, for example.)

The percentage of total hits that will end in jail terms or executions is
meaninglessly small as a percentage of total hits, though.  You must admit
that a ban on 100 sites out of all the sites in the world is pretty
insignificant.  The swamping effects of thousands and soon millions of sites
means the governments of the world won't even be able to evaluate a
significant percentage even if they want to.  And all this *before* we apply
any of our technical fixes.

DCF

Duncan Frissell <frissell@panix.com> writes:

> At 04:41 AM 9/9/96 -0700, Timothy C. May wrote:
> 
> >Prison sentences in Germany for those who reveal forbidden information
> >about "the Holocaust," 
> 
> In a country where you get 10 months for stabbing a famous tennis star in
> the back, prison isn't much of a penalty. 

I'm sure the sentense would have been different if she weren't a Slavic
untermensch, or if he were, say, a Turk.

A friend of mine related how his father - a Jew and a Soviet Army officer -
commanded a company in WW2. In 1944 they came across a church where over a 
thousand Nazi soldiers surrendered without reistance. He announced them "Ich
bin ain Jude" and had them all executed. I think he did the right thing.

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Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM
Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps

Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM wrote:
> Duncan Frissell <frissell@panix.com> writes:
> At 04:41 AM 9/9/96 -0700, Timothy C. May wrote:
> Prison sentences in Germany for those who reveal forbidden information
> about "the Holocaust,"
> In a country where you get 10 months for stabbing a famous tennis star 
> in the back, prison isn't much of a penalty.
> I'm sure the sentense would have been different if she weren't a
> Slavic untermensch, or if he were, say, a Turk.
> A friend of mine related how his father - a Jew and a Soviet Army
> officer - commanded a company in WW2. In 1944 they came across a > 
> church where over a thousand Nazi soldiers surrendered without 
> reistance. He announced them "Ich
> bin ain Jude" and had them all executed. I think he did the right
> thing.
> Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM
> Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 
> 14.4Kbps

First of all, soldiers are just the little guys, like you and me, no 
more "Nazis" than "Communists" or whatever we Americans are in the eyes 
of the third world, etc.

Remember the Godfather scene where Al Pacino is walking through the town 
in Sicily and he says "where are all the men?"? You can "justify" 
revenge all you want, and what do you get? Honor? Justice?

You get a lot of dead people, and in the next generation, nobody gives a 
shit. Oh, they "continue" the mindless hatred of earlier generations, 
spurred on by (take your pick here), but you can't really connect the 
issues seamlessly across generations, unless you simplify them in the 
extreme, such as "starvation and deprivation are a causative factor in 
war", or some such thing. Economic opportunity is certainly a leading 
cause in war and genocide, i.e., in a "free" world society, it should be 
easier to remove a profit motive than to remove starvation, if you know 
what I mean, and I think you do.

Dale Thorn <dthorn@gte.net> writes:
> First of all, soldiers are just the little guys, like you and me, no
> more "Nazis" than "Communists" or whatever we Americans are in the eyes
> of the third world, etc.

Nazi POWs were Nazis and deserved to be killed. Likewise, American soldiers
are murderous scum. I wish Saddam Hussein the best of luck in killing every
American he can get.

P.S. Please do not cc: me.

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Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM
Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps