NODE 96ed2bd2Re: FWD: Another try to kill democracy
"James A. Donald" <jamesd@echeque.com>Thu, 5 Sep 1996 17:21:19 +0800
At 09:53 PM 9/2/96 +0000, SPG wrote:
> I just got wind that the German government is planning to force german
> ISP's to shut off access to my ISP, XS4ALL, because the german magazine
>'Radikal' has a web page on xs4all.
A few more details please: What german agency is taking what action.
Has any access been shut off yet, or is it just some two bit asshole
fascist with delusions of grandeur?
> Please considder mirroring or linking to this site.
Linking is pointless if the site is cut off or access seriously threatened.
Mirroring is appropriate only if access is seriously threatened.
How serious is this threat?
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NODE 4459c3a9Re: FWD: Another try to kill democracy
"D. Moeller" <moe-san@stadt.com>Thu, 5 Sep 1996 21:44:31 +0800
James A. Donald wrote:
>
> At 09:53 PM 9/2/96 +0000, SPG wrote:
> > I just got wind that the German government is planning to force german
> > ISP's to shut off access to my ISP, XS4ALL, because the german magazine
> >'Radikal' has a web page on xs4all.
<..>
> How serious is this threat?
No problem in gaining access so far. I even traces through Telekom and
C-Serve - no trace of restrictions.
Maybe just a way to generate traffic to a lame site?
Cheers Moe!
--
D. Moeller at WebLab U-Agency GmbH
webadmin@stadt.com http://www.stadt.com/u-agency/
moe-san@elcafe.com http://www.elcafe.com/~moe-san/
NODE 169ad9a9Re: FWD: Another try to kill democracy
Stephan Schmidt <schmidt@pin.de>Fri, 6 Sep 1996 17:26:31 +0800
> No problem in gaining access so far. I even traces through Telekom and
> C-Serve - no trace of restrictions.
>
> Maybe just a way to generate traffic to a lame site?
>
Definetly not.
There is an advisory from the Generalbundesanwaltschaft and
the ICTF that ISPs should ('have to') restrict the access to
those urls.
But so far nothing happend. I asked some people
to try the urls and there where no restrictions.
(I encounterd no restrictions myself.)
-stephan
NODE 666df894Re: FWD: Another try to kill democracy
Declan McCullagh <declan@eff.org>Fri, 6 Sep 1996 17:55:21 +0800
That was my first thought, but it appears the ban is being implemented,
albeit slowly. Check out my message of about 12 hours ago on the topic.
-Declan
On Thu, 5 Sep 1996, D. Moeller wrote:
> James A. Donald wrote:
> >
> > At 09:53 PM 9/2/96 +0000, SPG wrote:
> > > I just got wind that the German government is planning to force german
> > > ISP's to shut off access to my ISP, XS4ALL, because the german magazine
> > >'Radikal' has a web page on xs4all.
>
> <..>
>
> > How serious is this threat?
>
> No problem in gaining access so far. I even traces through Telekom and
> C-Serve - no trace of restrictions.
>
> Maybe just a way to generate traffic to a lame site?
>
> Cheers Moe!
> --
>
> D. Moeller at WebLab U-Agency GmbH
> webadmin@stadt.com http://www.stadt.com/u-agency/
> moe-san@elcafe.com http://www.elcafe.com/~moe-san/
>
// declan@eff.org // I do not represent the EFF // declan@well.com //
NODE f817baf4Re: FWD: Another try to kill democracy
Stephan Schmidt <schmidt@pin.de>Fri, 6 Sep 1996 22:46:43 +0800
September 6th, 14:00 CET, I can still access
the url via our ISP.
-stephan