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Re: Assassination Politics, was Kiddie porn on the Internet

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NODE e3f790ffRe: Assassination Politics, was Kiddie porn on the Internet
>On Mon, 16 Sep 1996, Steve Schear wrote:
>
>> Someone wrote:
>
>> >The problem is that assasination rarely leads to the installation of
>> >a government that is any better. In most cases it gets worse.
>
>[...]
>
>> We've all heard these arguments, but are they true?  Who says so, and how
>> can they be certain? Jim's suggestion has never, to my knowledge, been
>> tried on a consistant, large, scale.  When all conventional alternatives
>> have been tried and fail, what have we or the starving children got to
>> lose?
>
>I think "Lord of the Flies" answers this question quite well.

Does it?  LOTF was fiction.  Can you identify a recent instance in which a
non-governmental organization attempted to influence political/military
events via a concerted AP?

>
>> Is it legal for citizens of the U.S. to engage in contract killing of
>> foreign military, politations, etc?  How about U.S. or foreign non-profits?
>
>As to the first, yes.  (There are several anti-mercenary statutes on the
>books)  As to the second, I don't understand the question.
>
So, you're saying it is legal for citizens?

The second question was whether a non-profit org. could raise
tax-deductible funds to conduct such operations.



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NODE 38ab5723Re: Assassination Politics, was Kiddie porn on the Internet
On Tue, 17 Sep 1996, Steve Schear wrote:

> >On Mon, 16 Sep 1996, Steve Schear wrote:
> >
> >> Someone wrote:
> >
> >> >The problem is that assasination rarely leads to the installation of
> >> >a government that is any better. In most cases it gets worse.
> >
> >[...]
> >
> >> We've all heard these arguments, but are they true?  Who says so, and how
> >> can they be certain? Jim's suggestion has never, to my knowledge, been
> >> tried on a consistant, large, scale.  When all conventional alternatives
> >> have been tried and fail, what have we or the starving children got to
> >> lose?
> >
> >I think "Lord of the Flies" answers this question quite well.
> 
> Does it?  LOTF was fiction.  Can you identify a recent instance in which a
> non-governmental organization attempted to influence political/military
> events via a concerted AP?

Try every violent insurgent movement in the modern era.  The only
difference is the manner of target selection included no money.

> >> Is it legal for citizens of the U.S. to engage in contract killing of
> >> foreign military, politations, etc?  How about U.S. or foreign non-profits?
> >
> >As to the first, yes.  (There are several anti-mercenary statutes on the
> >books)  As to the second, I don't understand the question.
> >
> So, you're saying it is legal for citizens?

Excuse me?

No, I am saying that U.S. citizens will be breaking the law if they move
to overthrow foreign governments, even in private action.

This is called, among other names, an anti-mercenary statute.

> The second question was whether a non-profit org. could raise
> tax-deductible funds to conduct such operations.

Done every day.  As to the legality, it would clearly be criminal
conspiracy to raise funds in furtherance of an attempt to violate
anti-mercenary statutes.


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