NODE 0f222fbeRe: Passive Trojan (was:Re: HAZ-MAT virus)
tcmay@got.net (Timothy C. May)Wed, 4 Sep 1996 05:15:52 +0800
At 9:38 AM 9/3/96, Hans "Unicorn" Van de Looy, aka "Deep Throat," wrote:
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>Request-Remailing-To: remailer@huge.cajones.com
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>Request-Remailing-To: remailer@remailer.nl.com
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>Request-Remailing-To: furballs@netcom.com (Paul S. Penrod)
>
>Deep Throat.
Hey, Hans, ya gotta watch those "Cc: cypherpunks@toad.com" lines!
At least now we know who the _other_ "Unicorn" is.
How's Sequent doing? Is Casey Powell still there?
--Tim May
We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, I know that that ain't allowed.
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NODE 048853a6Re: Passive Trojan (was:Re: HAZ-MAT virus)
ichudov@algebra.com (Igor Chudov @ home)Wed, 4 Sep 1996 13:10:31 +0800
Timothy C. May wrote:
> At 9:38 AM 9/3/96, Hans "Unicorn" Van de Looy, aka "Deep Throat," wrote:
> >::
> >Request-Remailing-To: remailer@huge.cajones.com
> >::
> >Request-Remailing-To: remailer@remailer.nl.com
> ....
> >::
> >Request-Remailing-To: furballs@netcom.com (Paul S. Penrod)
> >Deep Throat.
>
>
> Hey, Hans, ya gotta watch those "Cc: cypherpunks@toad.com" lines!
> At least now we know who the _other_ "Unicorn" is.
Which brings up the following question: what is the role of human
screwups in cryptosecurity? How "foolproof" (no pun intended) should
be remailer clients? How can we prevent people from forgetting to delete
unencrypted files after encryption?
Alternatively, let's think about this: premail always fingers
a certain user account at berkeley.edu to obtain remailer keys.
Suppose that Joe DrugUser uses remailers to talk to his
Columbian friends and the government wants to find out what he is doing.
They could just break into the computer at berkeley.edu and replace keys
with the government-provided keys. They could even modify the finger
server so that it would be lying only to Joe's computer and would
work just as before for all others (to prevent detection).
The government would then intercept Joe's communications and
decrypt them.
- Igor.
NODE f7ebf47cRe: Passive Trojan (was:Re: HAZ-MAT virus)
Hans "Unicorn" Van de Looy <hvdl@sequent.com>Wed, 4 Sep 1996 14:55:59 +0800
Hi Tim,
The one-and-only Timothy C. May once stated:
! At 9:38 AM 9/3/96, Hans "Unicorn" Van de Looy, aka "Deep Throat," wrote:
! >::
! >Request-Remailing-To: remailer@huge.cajones.com
! ....
! >::
! >Request-Remailing-To: remailer@remailer.nl.com
! ....
! >::
! >Request-Remailing-To: furballs@netcom.com (Paul S. Penrod)
! >
!
!
! >Deep Throat.
!
!
! Hey, Hans, ya gotta watch those "Cc: cypherpunks@toad.com" lines!
Like I explained before, this was a problem with a user of one of my/our
systems, and has been taken care of.
! At least now we know who the _other_ "Unicorn" is.
Well that has never been a secret... Has it?
! How's Sequent doing? Is Casey Powell still there?
Sequent is doing extremely well. New architecture well on it's way,
looking good! And yes, Casey is still in charge. Wanna know more?
Then let's continue this off line...
! --Tim May
!
! We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, I know that that ain't allowed.
! ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:----
! Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money,
! tcmay@got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero
! W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets,
! Licensed Ontologist | black markets, collapse of governments.
! "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."
--
GreetZ,
Hans.
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