Export laws don't just affect crypto

The recent posts about GPS made me research the state of the art of GPS 
receivers. Seems they are getting pretty good. Two pounds, sub-meter 
accuracy, attitude determination, all at altitudes up to 60,000 feet and 
speeds up to 1,000 nmph. But what really caught my eye was the fine print 
at the bottom of the spec sheet:

"Higher altitude and velocities up to 25,000 nautical miles-per-hour 
options are available in the U.S."

I gather from this that as long as you are in the US, you are welcome to 
use this technology for applications that require larger than 1,000 nmph 
speeds.

Seems the software industry is not the only industry that's suffering 
from silly export control laws.

--Lucky

>>>>> Lucky Green <shamrock@netcom.com> writes:

  > "Higher altitude and velocities up to 25,000 nautical
  > miles-per-hour options are available in the U.S."

  > I gather from this that as long as you are in the US, you are
  > welcome to use this technology for applications that require
  > larger than 1,000 nmph speeds.

Umm, so are you violating ITAR if you *use* these GPS-guided missiles
outside the US? ;-)

-- 
Roger Williams                         finger me for my PGP public key
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> 
> >>>>> Lucky Green <shamrock@netcom.com> writes:
> 
>   > "Higher altitude and velocities up to 25,000 nautical
>   > miles-per-hour options are available in the U.S."
> 
>   > I gather from this that as long as you are in the US, you are
>   > welcome to use this technology for applications that require
>   > larger than 1,000 nmph speeds.
> 
> Umm, so are you violating ITAR if you *use* these GPS-guided missiles
> outside the US? ;-)
  
     No, only if you _sell_ them (well, give, loan &etc)


     Hey buddy, can you spare a guided missle...

Petro, Christopher C.
petro@suba.com <prefered for any non-list stuff>
snow@smoke.suba.com

On Tue, 1 Oct 1996, Roger Williams wrote:

> >>>>> Lucky Green <shamrock@netcom.com> writes:
> 
>   > "Higher altitude and velocities up to 25,000 nautical
>   > miles-per-hour options are available in the U.S."
> 
>   > I gather from this that as long as you are in the US, you are
>   > welcome to use this technology for applications that require
>   > larger than 1,000 nmph speeds.
> 
> Umm, so are you violating ITAR if you *use* these GPS-guided missiles

No you aren't. A little known provision in the ITAR excempts exports 
by missile. Seriously.

--Lucky

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In article <199610011632.MAA01864@jekyll.piermont.com>,
Perry E. Metzger <perry@piermont.com> wrote:
>
>Lucky Green writes:
>> > Umm, so are you violating ITAR if you *use* these GPS-guided missiles
>> 
>> No you aren't. A little known provision in the ITAR excempts exports 
>> by missile. Seriously.
>
>Well, not quite -- it exempts exports by space launch, but I think
>thats intended for things like satelite launchings and not for things
>like missile attacks against other countries...
>
And I quote:

# (6) A launch vehicle or payload shall not, by reason of the launching of
# such vehicle, be considered an export for purposes of this subchapter.
# However, for certain limited purposes (see @ 126.1 of this subchapter),
# the controls of this subchapter may apply to any sale, transfer or
# proposal to sell or transfer defense articles or defense services.

   - Ian

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Lucky Green writes:
> > Umm, so are you violating ITAR if you *use* these GPS-guided missiles
> 
> No you aren't. A little known provision in the ITAR excempts exports 
> by missile. Seriously.

Well, not quite -- it exempts exports by space launch, but I think
thats intended for things like satelite launchings and not for things
like missile attacks against other countries...

.pm