Re: EUB_low

>      in the world, 24 hours a day. A U.S. official said, "The
>      bank is being investigated for violating U.S. laws with
>      open solicitations on the Net, which is at best for tax
>      evasion and at worst for money laundering."
>

I hate to tell the Feds but the internet is more of an international
publication than "High Life" (the BA inflight mag) or the BBC World Service
mag (whatever it's name is these days.

International publications can advertize offshore accounts and investments.

DCF

Duncan Frissell writes:
> >      in the world, 24 hours a day. A U.S. official said, "The
> >      bank is being investigated for violating U.S. laws with
> >      open solicitations on the Net, which is at best for tax
> >      evasion and at worst for money laundering."
> 
> I hate to tell the Feds but the internet is more of an international
> publication than "High Life" (the BA inflight mag) or the BBC World Service
> mag (whatever it's name is these days.
> 
> International publications can advertize offshore accounts and investments.

Be that as it may, but I wonder about the whole thing. EUBank's web
server appears to be firmly ensconced in Washington, D.C. -- not
exactly where one would expect their records to be kept, eh?

Perry

Perry E. Metzger writes:
> 
> 
[stuff about EUB deleted]

 
> Be that as it may, but I wonder about the whole thing. EUBank's web
> server appears to be firmly ensconced in Washington, D.C. -- not
> exactly where one would expect their records to be kept, eh?


I noticed that too.  Is this BCCI 2, or just a front that the forces
of repression can use to say "look, there is money-laundering
on the Internet!  We must control it."


Their server appears to reside in McLean, VA., not Antigua:


ericm(console)> traceroute 204.157.123.4
traceroute to 204.157.123.4 (204.157.123.4), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
[...]

12  * sl-capital-1-s1/0-T3.sprintlink.net (144.228.128.6)  148.345 ms *
13  cso-sw1p7-rC-p7.cais.net (205.252.5.30)  279.959 ms  147.905 ms *
14  * intr-c.sb1.cais.net (206.161.140.125)  163.211 ms  146.752 ms
15  204.157.123.4 (204.157.123.4)  204.088 ms * *


ericm(ttyp1)> whois cais.net
[rs.internic.net]
Capital Area Internet Service (CAIS2-DOM)
   6861 Elm Street, Third Floor
   McLean, VA 22101
   USA



ericm(ttyp1)> whois eub.com
[rs.internic.net]
European Union Bank (EUB-DOM)
   PO Box 1948
   St. John's, 
   Antigua and Barbuda

   Domain Name: EUB.COM

   Administrative Contact:
      Richards, Pete  (PR374)  75057.2515@COMPUSERVE.COM
      (809) 480-2370
   Technical Contact, Zone Contact, Billing Contact:
      Kulkov, Val  (VK41)  val@GREATIS.COM
      (202) 835-7489

   ELF.GREATIS.COM              205.229.28.5
   WHALE.GREATIS.COM            205.229.28.10

ericm(ttyp1)> whois VK41
[rs.internic.net]
Kulkov, Val (VK41)              val@GREATIS.COM
   Greatis USA, Inc.
   888 16th Street, NW, Suite 300
   Washington, DC 20006
   (202) 835-7489



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Eric Murray writes:
> Perry E. Metzger writes:
> > Be that as it may, but I wonder about the whole thing. EUBank's web
> > server appears to be firmly ensconced in Washington, D.C. -- not
> > exactly where one would expect their records to be kept, eh?
> 
> I noticed that too.  Is this BCCI 2, or just a front that the forces
> of repression can use to say "look, there is money-laundering
> on the Internet!  We must control it."

Or, perhaps, they are just a way for the IRS to get the names of lots
of people interested in offshore banking. Or maybe not. Who knows?

Perry

Mon, 7 Oct 1996, Perry E. Metzger said:

> Or, perhaps, they are just a way for the IRS to get the names of lots
> of people interested in offshore banking. Or maybe not. Who knows?

According to one offshore magazine European Union Bank is a very bad
choice for Internet banking. What they did was they assigned they named
Lord Mancroft who sits in the UK's House of Lords as chairman of the bank.
Only thing Lord Mancroft himself did not know a thing about it, although
the bank marketing materials had a letter of welcome supposedly from that
prominent person. So he is thinking of taking legal action against the
bank.

Also their correspondent bank in UK wants to terminate their relationship
with EUB because of these problems.

Jüri Kaljundi
AS Stallion
jk@stallion.ee