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NODE ba6021b9POTP critques?
An acquaintence of mine works at a firm with little cryptography
experience. They are thinking of including cryptography in a 
future product, and Elementrix's Power One Time Pad is a
serious contestant.

I'm looking for independent critiques of the system, something
better than 'it's not really a one-time pad.' Is the cryptosystem
which is actually implemented worth a damn? Does their claim
to have solved the key distribution problem hold water? I
seem to remember something about them wanting to
generate keys for you, and ship them to the customer. Is this
correct?

Peter Trei
trei@process.com

Peter Trei
Senior Software Engineer
Purveyor Development Team                                
Process Software Corporation
http://www.process.com
trei@process.com
NODE 3c74ca59Re: POTP critques?
Peter Trei <trei@process.com> wrote:

> An acquaintence of mine works at a firm with little cryptography
> experience. They are thinking of including cryptography in a 
> future product, and Elementrix's Power One Time Pad is a
> serious contestant.
> 
> I'm looking for independent critiques of the system, something
> better than 'it's not really a one-time pad.' Is the cryptosystem
> which is actually implemented worth a damn? Does their claim
> to have solved the key distribution problem hold water? I
> seem to remember something about them wanting to
> generate keys for you, and ship them to the customer. Is this
> correct?

Not quite.  What the program actually does is the first time you send a
message, it generates an initial key and sends the key - in plaintext -
to the recipient.  Then the first message is encrypted with this key.
So the system initially has absolutely no security at all.  

The second message sent is encrypted with a hash of the first message as
a key.  The third message is encrypted using a hash of the second message,
and so forth.  So each time you send a new message, you in effect send
a new key, encrypted with the old key.  Their theory is that if the
eavesdropper misses a message, then he loses the key, and can't decrypt
the messages anymore.

Of course, if the intended recipient loses a message then he loses the key
for subsequent messages too.  Thus we have a nice little denial-of-service
attack.  They prevent this via a "emeregency resynchronization" procedure
(which they seem quite proud of, and their web pages congratulate
themselves repeatedy on the purported cleverness of this).  Of course, this
"resnchronization" is based upon a pre-arranged key, which the eavesdropper
should already have, if he's been decrypting their mail.  Even better,
the attacker can synchronize with one or both parties, performing a
man-in-the-middle attack and/or spoofing them.

So basically the system will stand up to a passive sniffing attack only if
the eavesdropper is clumsy and loses messages, and doesn't stand up to a 
denial-of-service or man-in-the-middle attack at all.  And I haven't even
considered implementation bugs yet.
NODE 4765b3cbRe: POTP critques?
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On Fri, 18 Oct 1996, Peter Trei wrote:

> I'm looking for independent critiques of the system, something
> better than 'it's not really a one-time pad.' Is the cryptosystem
> which is actually implemented worth a damn? Does their claim
> to have solved the key distribution problem hold water? I
> seem to remember something about them wanting to
> generate keys for you, and ship them to the customer. Is this
> correct?

POTP is a stream cipher where the key is derived from a "state" and bits from
the ciphertext chosen using the current state.  Two machines have to
synchronize their states before encryption can take place.  The key is derived
from a one-way function performed on the state.  This really doesn't solve the
key distribution problem because initial synchronization has to take place on
a secure channel.  The current state also has to be saved on each machine.
I think the "escrow" system you are referring to is some other encryption
program.

Elementrix does acknowledge that they have a stream cipher and don't refer to
it as a one-time pad.  The only reason OTP is in the name is that the key
derived from the state is as long as the ciphertext being encrypted.  They
claim that the state is larger than the key and it is computationally
infeasible to derive the state given the key.  I would guess that the size of
the next state is determined by the size of the plaintext to be encrypted.

As for security of the system, I really don't know.  Their algorithm is
proprietary so I would avoid it for that reason alone.  They have not yet
gotten any comments regarding security from any cryptographers.  The entire
security of this system is based upon the algorithm used to generate the state
from a previous state and the one-way function used to generate the session
key.  Unless they are using a hash algorithm like SHA-1 to generate the keys
and states, I would seriously question the security of it.

Mark
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