Re: Fuck Cyberpromo

At 11:07 AM 10/13/96 CST, roy@scytale.com wrote:
[snip]

>Anyone on the list know of a good, heavy-handed collection agency that
>would like to take this when it tops, say, $500?

Why not just filter the shit?   It's not like they're switching addresses
or anything.  All mail from that address just goes straight to my trash
unread...


Rich


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In list.cypherpunks, richieb@teleport.com writes:

> At 11:07 AM 10/13/96 CST, roy@scytale.com wrote:
> [snip]
>
>>Anyone on the list know of a good, heavy-handed collection agency that
>>would like to take this when it tops, say, $500?
>
> Why not just filter the shit?

Can't filter until the traffic is delivered to the local system here.
By that time, I've already paid for its delivery.  Wallace and
CyberPromo are costing me real, measurable money, and I want it stopped.

Besides, it will be a valuable precedent if I can collect (or even
obtain a judgement).  This is right in line with the junk fax law, which
recognized that junk faxes consume the receiver's resources without
permission or compensation.

If filtering is to be done, it's CyberPromo's responsibility to filter
their outgoing traffic.  I sent 3 warnings to the designated address
(wallace@cyberpromo.com) and provided a simple list of 2 domains to
block.  Now I'm sending invoices.
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On Sun, 13 Oct 1996, Roy M. Silvernail wrote:

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> In list.cypherpunks, richieb@teleport.com writes:
> 
> > At 11:07 AM 10/13/96 CST, roy@scytale.com wrote:
> > [snip]
> >
> >>Anyone on the list know of a good, heavy-handed collection agency that
> >>would like to take this when it tops, say, $500?
> >
> > Why not just filter the shit?
> 
> Can't filter until the traffic is delivered to the local system here.
> By that time, I've already paid for its delivery.  Wallace and
> CyberPromo are costing me real, measurable money, and I want it stopped.
> 
> Besides, it will be a valuable precedent if I can collect (or even
> obtain a judgement).  This is right in line with the junk fax law, which
> recognized that junk faxes consume the receiver's resources without
> permission or compensation.

I'd like to join you on this.  I have sent email to 
wallace@asswipespamnet already as well as left them voice mail for every 
message they sent, they will be charged $500 per message and the next one 
I receive constitutes acceptance.  I've since then recieved about 4-5 
more, which means they owe me $2000 or thereabouts. :)

So what steps do we need in putting some teeth into this?

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On Mon, 14 Oct 1996, Ray Arachelian wrote:

> On Sun, 13 Oct 1996, Roy M. Silvernail wrote:
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> > In list.cypherpunks, richieb@teleport.com writes:
> > 
> > > At 11:07 AM 10/13/96 CST, roy@scytale.com wrote:
> > > [snip]
> > >
> > >>Anyone on the list know of a good, heavy-handed collection agency that
> > >>would like to take this when it tops, say, $500?
> > >
> > > Why not just filter the shit?
> > 
> > Can't filter until the traffic is delivered to the local system here.
> > By that time, I've already paid for its delivery.  Wallace and
> > CyberPromo are costing me real, measurable money, and I want it stopped.
> > 
> > Besides, it will be a valuable precedent if I can collect (or even
> > obtain a judgement).  This is right in line with the junk fax law, which
> > recognized that junk faxes consume the receiver's resources without
> > permission or compensation.
> 
> I'd like to join you on this.  I have sent email to 
> wallace@asswipespamnet already as well as left them voice mail for every 
> message they sent, they will be charged $500 per message and the next one 
> I receive constitutes acceptance.  I've since then recieved about 4-5 
> more, which means they owe me $2000 or thereabouts. :)
> 
> So what steps do we need in putting some teeth into this?
> 

Hrmm.. as far as I know verbal agreement (i.e. verbal contract in the
future tense -- "I will charge you") is only valid up to $500 TOTAL.

but as long as thats the total, you'll probably piss them off enough
anyway. ;)

 --Deviant
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