NODE 90797018[PGP] Re: FYI - Biham/Shamir Differential Fault Analysis of DES, etc.
nobody@zifi.genetics.utah.edu (Anonymous)Sat, 19 Oct 1996 10:36:36 -0700 (PDT)
In .cypherpunks, Matt Blaze <mab@research.att.com> writes:
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ <--- AT&T/NSA HQ
>Subject: A new attack on DES
>
>
>Research announcement: A new cryptanalytic attack on DES
>
>
As usual, Blaze/AT&T uses cypherpunks to spread FUD from it's NSA masters.
This time, however, he's stolen the work of others and twisted it to suit
the corporate goals. Bet his next message is a commercial from AT&T for the
clipper chip, which, they will ass-u-re us, fixes this socalled <<attack>>.
Someone should sue Blaze and AT&T.
Blaze, who is a wellknown homosexual Jew, probably can expect a nice bonus
in next weeks blood money check for thinking of this latest little stunt,
so I'm sure he can afford the legal fees. Just a cost of doing biz, right?
Shame on him!
p.S. I know this post sounds angry but this kind of shit just pisses me off
so much.
NODE a672c8c3Re: [PGP] Re: FYI - Biham/Shamir Differential Fault Analysis of DES, etc.
dustman@athensnet.com (Anonymous)Sat, 19 Oct 1996 17:48:27 -0700 (PDT)
> As usual, Blaze/AT&T uses cypherpunks to spread FUD from it's NSA masters.
> This time, however, he's stolen the work of others and twisted it to suit
> the corporate goals. Bet his next message is a commercial from AT&T for the
> clipper chip, which, they will ass-u-re us, fixes this socalled <<attack>>.
> Someone should sue Blaze and AT&T.
How much of a bonus do you think he got for exposing the flaw in the
clipper chip?
> Blaze, who is a wellknown homosexual Jew, probably can expect a nice bonus
> in next weeks blood money check for thinking of this latest little stunt,
> so I'm sure he can afford the legal fees. Just a cost of doing biz, right?
Is there anything wrong with being a homosexual Jew? Can you
elaborate?
> Shame on him!
>
> p.S. I know this post sounds angry but this kind of shit just pisses me off
> so much.
Exactly what pisses you off?
The message Blase posted implies that there are serious problems with
making "tamperproof" devices. This sounds like good news to me, as it
makes it significantly harder for the government to realy on the
secrecy of encryption keys for "LEAF" packets.
If you think there is something incorrect or dishonest about the
announcement Blaze forwarded, I'd like to hear about it. However, I'm
trying to follow your logic but can't figure it out. You claim:
1. Blaze stole the work of others.
How can this be since he clearly attributed the message to
Biham/Shamir
2. He's twisted the work to fit his corporate needs.
How does discrediting tamper-proof hardware fit the needs of AT&T?
3. Blaze is about to endorse the clipper chip in his next message.
Why would Blaze endorse a system he has already shown is flawed?
Anyway, since he hasn't endorsed the clipper chip yet, why can't we
wait and see what he does before attacking him?
NODE b3ef9023Re: [PGP] Re: FYI - Biham/Shamir Differential Fault Analysis of DES, etc.
Tim Scanlon <tfs@vampire.science.gmu.edu>Sat, 19 Oct 1996 23:28:44 -0700 (PDT)
This is obviously just more of dimitri's bullshit.
The only thing that should have been taken seriously about the
post is that it illustrated well why he has no fucking place
on this list. You can't argue with mean spirited stupidity,
and I wouldn't even try if I were you, it's a waste of packets,
much like dimitri's presence on the net.
Tim Scanlon
NODE 6f5d7425Re: [PGP] Re: FYI - Biham/Shamir Differential Fault Analysis of DES, etc.
dlv@bwalk.dm.com (Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM)Sun, 20 Oct 1996 08:10:27 -0700 (PDT)
Tim Scanlon <tfs@vampire.science.gmu.edu> writes:
>
> This is obviously just more of dimitri's bullshit.
Tim (using a different last name) is lying.
I did not write the anonymous article about Matt Blaze.
I think it was written by Tim May, who's trying to blame all
sorts of garbage on me.
> The only thing that should have been taken seriously about the
> post is that it illustrated well why he has no fucking place
> on this list. You can't argue with mean spirited stupidity,
> and I wouldn't even try if I were you, it's a waste of packets,
> much like dimitri's presence on the net.
>
>
> Tim Scanlon
Timmy May and his supporters have no place on any forum related to
cryotpgraphy.
---
Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM
Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps
NODE 0aeca53cRe: [PGP] Re: FYI - Biham/Shamir Differential Fault Analysis of DES, etc.
C Kuethe <ckuethe@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca>Sat, 19 Oct 1996 19:52:00 -0700 (PDT)
On Fri, 18 Oct 1996, Anonymous wrote:
> As usual, Blaze/AT&T uses cypherpunks to spread FUD from it's NSA masters.
> This time, however, he's stolen the work of others and twisted it to suit
> the corporate goals. Bet his next message is a commercial from AT&T for the
> clipper chip, which, they will ass-u-re us, fixes this socalled <<attack>>.
> Someone should sue Blaze and AT&T.
>
>[SNIP] <argumentum ad hominem>
>
> Shame on him!
Glad to see you're smart enough to not likle clipper. And if you don't
like DES, don't use it. I don't. anyway enough of my naive comments, but
please refrain from describing to us the perversities of others... I
firmly hold that cryptology has nothing to do with your favored religion
or other *PERSONAL* decisions.
--
Chris Kuethe <ckuethe@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca> LPGV Electronics and Controls
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