Re: Clipper III on the table

At 05:50 PM 10/3/96 -0400, Anonymous wrote:
>
>Ernest Hua <hua@chromatic.com> wrote:
>> I predict, therefore, Netscape and RSA would NOT capitulate to this
>> latest bitter carrot.
>
>Huh?  RSA has already gone over to the dark side.  According to
>http://www.rsa.com/PRESSBOX/releases/keyrecov.htm:
>   "The recently announced Key Recovery Alliance, of which RSA is a part,
..."

I think we should refer to what they are pushing as the "Key Recovery
Alliance Program".  K.R.A.P. is a good description as to what we are going
to get from them.



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On Thu, 3 Oct 1996, Alan Olsen wrote:
> I think we should refer to what they are pushing as the "Key Recovery
> Alliance Program".  K.R.A.P. is a good description as to what we are going
> to get from them.

Ping. We have a winner!

--Lucky

Alan Olsen wrote:
> I think we should refer to what they are pushing as the "Key Recovery
> Alliance Program".  K.R.A.P. is a good description as to what we are going
> to get from them.

Key recovery is a great thing, as long as it is not mandated by
the government.

	- Igor.

ichudov@algebra.com (Igor Chudov @ home) writes:

> Alan Olsen wrote:
> > I think we should refer to what they are pushing as the "Key Recovery
> > Alliance Program".  K.R.A.P. is a good description as to what we are going
> > to get from them.
>
> Key recovery is a great thing, as long as it is not mandated by
> the government.

Hear, hear.  If I own a computer and some contractor is writing something
on it for me, I should have the right to tell the contractor that I don't
want, e.g., any unlicences software and any data encrypted so that I can't
read it.

Likewise the gubmint or a corporation bigger than mine is free to say that
there should be no data on its computers or its contractors computers that
they can't read.

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dlv@bwalk.dm.com (Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM) sez:
> If I own a computer and some contractor is writing something on it
> for me, I should have the right to tell the contractor that I don't
> want, e.g., any unlicences software and any data encrypted so that I
> can't read it.

well, it's *your* computer...

> Likewise the gubmint or a corporation bigger than mine is free to
> say that there should be no data on its computers or its contractors
> computers that they can't read.

Whoa!  Unless the service contracted for includes the use of the
contractors' computers, what business does the employer have poking
around in someone else's computer?  I can easily see Big Brother
demanding exactly that, but He won't hire me under those conditions.

Or was that just a slip of the mind, assuming large organizations
should have greater powers than smaller ones?  I do that too much
myself.

Stephen

Stephen Humble <deeb@x.org> writes:
> > Likewise the gubmint or a corporation bigger than mine is free to
> > say that there should be no data on its computers or its contractors
> > computers that they can't read.
>
> Whoa!  Unless the service contracted for includes the use of the
> contractors' computers, what business does the employer have poking
> around in someone else's computer?  I can easily see Big Brother
> demanding exactly that, but He won't hire me under those conditions.
>
> Or was that just a slip of the mind, assuming large organizations
> should have greater powers than smaller ones?  I do that too much
> myself.

Well, no. I (and any other employer) should be able to specify that
if you do work _for me, you do it on either my equipment, or on
equipment configured and secured to my standards.

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